A comment on this if I may... I would disagree using multiple stylesheets, which is highly A) unproductive and B) not recommended for page speed at all. I would suggest using creating mockups in PSD (clean look), then converting them to HTML5/CSS3 using one of popular responsive frameworks - Boilerplate for example which is a long-time favorite of mine.

I'm not sure about comments on using Apache CMS vs. single css.... why not start using different CMS?
Can somebody please let me know where I can find more info on Apache CMS?

Having both worked on hi-profile commercial Wordpress themes, I would suggest using Wordpress. But of course, it cannot be perfect solution for everything so I would like to listen to suggestions from other colleagues.

Best,
Milosh


On 4/1/2013 2:59 AM, Rob Weir wrote:
On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 3:12 PM, Samer Mansour <[email protected]> wrote:
Dave,

We can consider not using a single CSS or template for the entire site.
Rather we would partition the website and apply CSS and templates according
to their context or navigation depth.

Maybe a single CSS for colours, fonts sizes, tables, etc.  eg. lets call
this standard.css
The secondary pages, like module info and volunteer list, would have a CSS
for layout information. eg secondary.css
Homepage and Download pages would have a different layout CSS but still
inherent the font and colors from the first CSS. eg home.css and
download.css

We may also consider moving the API to openoffice.apache.org and giving it
its own css / program an exemption for those.
It looks like a lot of links are broken right now as well. That would be on
the list as well for fixing.


I think success in this area will be greatly enhanced if we make it a
non-goal to encompass the entire openoffice.org website as it is
today. I'd highly recommend focusing on a core website, with good
up-to-date content, a good modern look, SEO optimized and with a
well-defined method for localization.  It can probably be done with 25
pages per language.

Of course,  we can also preserve, for historical or archival reasons,
everything else.  But l think we can take a data-driven approach to
identify the pages that users actually use most, and focus the core
website on that.

-Rob

Samer

On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 6:48 PM, Dave Fisher <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi -

When the time comes to do the web site redesign, let me know and I'll help
provide any guidance on how the current template is fit together.

I'm the person who did the bulk of the work moving the old into the Apache
CMS. Don't let the current html fool you the way things work extracts
everything needed for the page. Fair warning this can include css files.
This means that it might be difficult to go contain the whole of the
re-design to a single css - side effects from these other css will take
time. openoffice.org/api is particularly tricky and has its own css to
style generated content.

Regards,
Dave

On Mar 27, 2013, at 5:31 AM, Robin Fowler wrote:

Hi Samer,

I'm fine implementing the design, and we can do it together that sounds
great. But I don't think it's a good idea to start with a web design
without knowing the logo. The logo is the strongest visual element in the
whole branding and i think the website (and in fact the entire brand
design) should be tailored to the appearance of it. My proposal is
obviously tailored to my own logo design, but if we decide to use a
different logo then i would like to optimise the design for it.

One thing you don't want is to implement a design and then change
things. The most efficient way of doing this is making a mockup, optimising
it and then implementing it 1:1 in html/css.

I'm afraid I'm not up to date with the current status and have no idea
if any proposals have been chosen/dismissed yet.

So yes I'm fine helping out but wouldn't want to do this before a
decision has been made.

Robin


On 27 Mar 2013, at 03:12, Samer Mansour <[email protected]> wrote:

Robin,

Would you be interested working together to come up with a new website
template (html/css)?  We would prioritize and size the work together.

I would like to get this started in parallel with selecting a logo.  I
really liked your proposal and I think we can make a strong visual
identity
for the homepage and secondary pages.

I want to keep openoffice.org end-user focused
So we may move some pages over to openoffice.apache.org that are more
project/development specific and vice versa.

I am not excluding others from helping, I'm simply asking if you can do
this.
You have made a very good website proposal.

Please let me know if you are interested.  We can exchange and IM
outside
this mailing list to collaborate.

Samer Mansour


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