Hello Dave,

I don't know how the website is organized yet, its going to take me some
time to learn how it works currently.

Question: What does NL and SSI stand for.

Do we currently maintain a site map diagram somewhere I can start from?
Otherwise I'll start documenting a plan on the cwiki and keep feed back
there.
I'll need to confirm with dev list for satisfying their requirements as
well, I did not know there needed to be the two versions of the API.

Rob, I would target a subset of the pages according to google analytics
traffic.

Samer

On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 7:54 AM, Milosh Vujnovic <[email protected]>wrote:

> A comment on this if I may... I would disagree using multiple stylesheets,
> which is highly A) unproductive and B) not recommended for page speed at
> all.
> I would suggest using creating mockups in PSD (clean look), then
> converting them to HTML5/CSS3 using one of popular responsive frameworks -
> Boilerplate for example which is a long-time favorite of mine.
>
> I'm not sure about comments on using Apache CMS vs. single css.... why not
> start using different CMS?
> Can somebody please let me know where I can find more info on Apache CMS?
>
> Having both worked on hi-profile commercial Wordpress themes, I would
> suggest using Wordpress.
> But of course, it cannot be perfect solution for everything so I would
> like to listen to suggestions from other colleagues.
>
> Best,
> Milosh
>
>
>
> On 4/1/2013 2:59 AM, Rob Weir wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 3:12 PM, Samer Mansour <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dave,
>>>
>>> We can consider not using a single CSS or template for the entire site.
>>> Rather we would partition the website and apply CSS and templates
>>> according
>>> to their context or navigation depth.
>>>
>>> Maybe a single CSS for colours, fonts sizes, tables, etc.  eg. lets call
>>> this standard.css
>>> The secondary pages, like module info and volunteer list, would have a
>>> CSS
>>> for layout information. eg secondary.css
>>> Homepage and Download pages would have a different layout CSS but still
>>> inherent the font and colors from the first CSS. eg home.css and
>>> download.css
>>>
>>> We may also consider moving the API to openoffice.apache.org and giving
>>> it
>>> its own css / program an exemption for those.
>>> It looks like a lot of links are broken right now as well. That would be
>>> on
>>> the list as well for fixing.
>>>
>>>
>> I think success in this area will be greatly enhanced if we make it a
>> non-goal to encompass the entire openoffice.org website as it is
>> today. I'd highly recommend focusing on a core website, with good
>> up-to-date content, a good modern look, SEO optimized and with a
>> well-defined method for localization.  It can probably be done with 25
>> pages per language.
>>
>> Of course,  we can also preserve, for historical or archival reasons,
>> everything else.  But l think we can take a data-driven approach to
>> identify the pages that users actually use most, and focus the core
>> website on that.
>>
>> -Rob
>>
>>  Samer
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 6:48 PM, Dave Fisher <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Hi -
>>>>
>>>> When the time comes to do the web site redesign, let me know and I'll
>>>> help
>>>> provide any guidance on how the current template is fit together.
>>>>
>>>> I'm the person who did the bulk of the work moving the old into the
>>>> Apache
>>>> CMS. Don't let the current html fool you the way things work extracts
>>>> everything needed for the page. Fair warning this can include css files.
>>>> This means that it might be difficult to go contain the whole of the
>>>> re-design to a single css - side effects from these other css will take
>>>> time. openoffice.org/api is particularly tricky and has its own css to
>>>> style generated content.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 27, 2013, at 5:31 AM, Robin Fowler wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Hi Samer,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm fine implementing the design, and we can do it together that sounds
>>>>>
>>>> great. But I don't think it's a good idea to start with a web design
>>>> without knowing the logo. The logo is the strongest visual element in
>>>> the
>>>> whole branding and i think the website (and in fact the entire brand
>>>> design) should be tailored to the appearance of it. My proposal is
>>>> obviously tailored to my own logo design, but if we decide to use a
>>>> different logo then i would like to optimise the design for it.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> One thing you don't want is to implement a design and then change
>>>>>
>>>> things. The most efficient way of doing this is making a mockup,
>>>> optimising
>>>> it and then implementing it 1:1 in html/css.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm afraid I'm not up to date with the current status and have no idea
>>>>>
>>>> if any proposals have been chosen/dismissed yet.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So yes I'm fine helping out but wouldn't want to do this before a
>>>>>
>>>> decision has been made.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Robin
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 27 Mar 2013, at 03:12, Samer Mansour <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Robin,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Would you be interested working together to come up with a new website
>>>>>> template (html/css)?  We would prioritize and size the work together.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would like to get this started in parallel with selecting a logo.  I
>>>>>> really liked your proposal and I think we can make a strong visual
>>>>>>
>>>>> identity
>>>>
>>>>> for the homepage and secondary pages.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I want to keep openoffice.org end-user focused
>>>>>> So we may move some pages over to openoffice.apache.org that are more
>>>>>> project/development specific and vice versa.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am not excluding others from helping, I'm simply asking if you can
>>>>>> do
>>>>>> this.
>>>>>> You have made a very good website proposal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please let me know if you are interested.  We can exchange and IM
>>>>>>
>>>>> outside
>>>>
>>>>> this mailing list to collaborate.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Samer Mansour
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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