On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 12:01 AM, Quim Gil <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Right, so it is good that a Qt vendor organized activities around Qt
> (for instance the picture at
>
> http://qt-mobility.blogspot.com/2011/02/qt-developer-workshop-by-nokia-bandung.html
> is not looking bad) but the Qt Project needs to have the capacity to
> push its own agenda anywhere, in collaboration with vendors and other
> stakeholders.
>

That's what I have crossed in mind. That post was a developer workshop held
by Nokia, the trainers came from Nokia Singapore everything is solely
arranged by Nokia, which is great too.


>
> Sadly I don't know Indonesia but I will ask around inside Nokia to find
> the right contacts.


Actually @mopius (Andreas Jakl?) was here for NFC training session. But,
again the initiative was driven by Nokia Indonesia. Furthermore, you could
ping @narenda, is the man behind Nokia Indonesia who pushes developers here
to set their minds to develop for Nokia Platform (including Qt). He is one
of our best friends. Should appreciate him for 'Qt Buzz' in recent years.


> Are there other companies with presence in
> Indonesia? What about KDE developers or other Linux communities
> interested in Qt?
>

Well, I don't know about KDE, but Linux community should have enough
attention here e.g. http://www.blankonlinux.or.id/ ; in fact the (my)
proposed Pi project was delivered for supporting this:
http://dev.blankonlinux.or.id/wiki/Srimubil/BlanKombebe (it's in Bahasa, I
believe you know @aksimdamt http://www.linkedin.com/in/mdamt who pushes the
adoption of Linux to be viral in Indonesia) ; Blankon has Qt in it, but it
doesn't focus on Qt.


>
> I see you are already at http://www.meetup.com/QtEverywhere/Bandung/ and
> there is http://www.meetup.com/QtEverywhere/Depok-ID/274121/ too but the
> numbers are indeed low.
>

Yes, it should be better in the near future :-)


>
> Indeed Qt Quick and the usefulness of QtWebkit with all the access to
> the native APIs are key technologies to promote. But yes, all this needs
> real products to get people interested. If you are talking about mobile
> in Indonesia then N9 + Symbian + Android port might be a good enough
> attraction to get us started. Then there is the desktop and other
> form-factors, but I don't know how relevant is that in Indonesia.
>

Nice! Symbian and the beauty N9 could fit the deal and Android will somehow
fill the curiosity. Well, indeed we have to let developers see the
opportunity is not only from smartphones, there are many ways to put Qt in
the business core and getting benefit of adopting it.


>
>
> > Some efforts,
> >
> > I have tried to make small mentoring session at some high-schools and
> > universities. We have small groups, working on simple apps development
> > and try to submit it to Nokia Store to get the real excitement. The key
> > is, the excitement and real benefits. Qt 5 and Raspberry Pi could be
> > something attractive for academic hackers ; but we need real bridge to
> > let them see the real "thing" that they can actually build with these
> > awesome tools. Given more than 200 millions people living in this
> > country we have a lot of potential though.
>
> Very true. Any big movement starts with a small step. That is a core
> point in the philosophy of the network of local groups.
>
> > Enough for the intro, I have read the
> > http://wiki.meego.com/Local_MeeGo_Networks hopefully we could have on in
> > Indonesia, a simple meetup with better (developer) ambience rather than
> > Nokia marketing nuance. Looking forward to more coherence discussion :-)
>
> What can we do to help you organize a first genuine Qt meetup in
> Bandung? What should be it about ? Training session? Showcase? Social
> meetup?
>
> How do you need to organize it? Does meetup.com work for you, would you
> prefer another tool... ?
>

I will try to have further discussion with Nokia Indonesia here, there is a
Nokia's dedicated mailing list for Nokia Developer http://nice.or.id/ ; I
will try to cluster out developers who do really love and want to work with
Qt and try to initiate the first 'genuine' community-based meetup. I'll
post the feedback in here. In my opinion, social meetup would be the best
to deface from what we have before.

Meetup.com is enough if it is used in the 'right' way. In here Blaast has a
good attention and quite successful in driving community and they 'put'
Ambassadors here and they use meetup.com e.g.
http://www.meetup.com/BlaastMeet/events/44176362/ ; this depicts developers
love to have enough attention from platform principals, like Nokia does in
here.

Thanks

Best,

Dio
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