On 12/07/2011 03:29 PM, ext Dhi Aurrahman wrote:
> Hi I'm Dio, I'm a Qt developer living in Bandung, Indonesia.

Hi!

> Some backgrounds,
>
> Here in this country, the spread of Qt is being enforced by (developer)
> managers at Nokia Indonesia. We had several times of Qt Developer Days;
> but it turns out just like a Nokia Marketing events rather than Qt
> itself. The best part of that program maybe the effort to have formal
> curriculum which involves Qt in Universities. The effort is now running
> as secondary stream since the burst of Silverlight and WP7 ; Microsoft
> has good connection with developers in here, in fact the Developer
> Manager at Nokia Indonesia was a Community Manager for Microsoft
> Users/Developers Group.

Right, so it is good that a Qt vendor organized activities around Qt 
(for instance the picture at 
http://qt-mobility.blogspot.com/2011/02/qt-developer-workshop-by-nokia-bandung.html
 
is not looking bad) but the Qt Project needs to have the capacity to 
push its own agenda anywhere, in collaboration with vendors and other 
stakeholders.

Sadly I don't know Indonesia but I will ask around inside Nokia to find 
the right contacts. Are there other companies with presence in 
Indonesia? What about KDE developers or other Linux communities 
interested in Qt?

I see you are already at http://www.meetup.com/QtEverywhere/Bandung/ and 
there is http://www.meetup.com/QtEverywhere/Depok-ID/274121/ too but the 
numbers are indeed low.


> About meetups, it would be the best if we could actually measure the
> current level of Qt adoption. I don't think I have access to that data
> in here in Indonesia. It will be hard to get started, since Qt very
> close to C++ which is scary for most of developers. (yes there is QML,
> we're working on it!)

Indeed Qt Quick and the usefulness of QtWebkit with all the access to 
the native APIs are key technologies to promote. But yes, all this needs 
real products to get people interested. If you are talking about mobile 
in Indonesia then N9 + Symbian + Android port might be a good enough 
attraction to get us started. Then there is the desktop and other 
form-factors, but I don't know how relevant is that in Indonesia.


> Some efforts,
>
> I have tried to make small mentoring session at some high-schools and
> universities. We have small groups, working on simple apps development
> and try to submit it to Nokia Store to get the real excitement. The key
> is, the excitement and real benefits. Qt 5 and Raspberry Pi could be
> something attractive for academic hackers ; but we need real bridge to
> let them see the real "thing" that they can actually build with these
> awesome tools. Given more than 200 millions people living in this
> country we have a lot of potential though.

Very true. Any big movement starts with a small step. That is a core 
point in the philosophy of the network of local groups.

> Enough for the intro, I have read the
> http://wiki.meego.com/Local_MeeGo_Networks hopefully we could have on in
> Indonesia, a simple meetup with better (developer) ambience rather than
> Nokia marketing nuance. Looking forward to more coherence discussion :-)

What can we do to help you organize a first genuine Qt meetup in 
Bandung? What should be it about ? Training session? Showcase? Social 
meetup?

How do you need to organize it? Does meetup.com work for you, would you 
prefer another tool... ?

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