On 11-01-12 01:36 PM, Marc Paré wrote:
> Le 2011-01-12 10:33, Fabián Rodríguez a écrit :
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am sending email invitations to my close network of friends and
>> colleagues, and to projects I participate in, inviting them to join
>> LibreOffice. I thought I'd share this. I'd like to ask where would be
>> the best place in the wiki to put such examples and their translations ?
>> I know within the Marketing project this makes sense but I also thought
>> we'd need to expose this more.
>>
>> Of course adapt&  customize them depending on your audience, if you end
>> up using any of them!
>>
>> These are just 3 examples:
>>
>> For end-users:
>> [Trisquel-users] An invitation to ask your questions about LibreOffice
>> on "Ask LibreOffice"
>> http://listas.trisquel.info/pipermail/trisquel-users/2011-January/002372.html
>>
>>
>> For developers:
>> [Trisquel-devel] An invitation to become a LibreOffice contributor
>> http://listas.trisquel.info/pipermail/trisquel-devel/2011-January/000345.html
>>
>>
>> For end-users, in French:
>> [Trisquel-utilisateurs] Invitation à connaître LibreOffice
>> http://listas.trisquel.info/pipermail/trisquel-utilisateurs/2011-January/000050.html
>>
>>
>> Any comments/suggestions welcome.
>>
>> Fabian
>>
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>> Fabián Rodríguez
>> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:MagicFab
>>
>>
>>
>
> Thanks Fabian for your offer to share these.
>
> I myself am not in favour of posting these on our wiki pages as,
> although they do mention LibreOffice they also mention other projects
> that have no relationship with LibreOffice. I am in favour of
> providing some text that could be used in formulating invitations to
> join our membership, but as far as the personal aspect of inviting
> people that one knows, this should really be left to the individual
> sender to create.

Hi Marc, thanks for your comments. I suggested wiki pages as that's
where new(er) advocates for LibO may end up and if I can save them 10
minutes of writing / translating, I'd love to do that. Not everyone will
dig such stuff from the mailing lists.

I am not sure I follow re: unrelated projects ? I mentioned
libreoffice.shapado.com which is *dedicated* to helping LibO users. And
I mentioned AskDebian which is another Q&A site about one of the primary
target OSs for LibreOffice. 

>
> This would be different, of course, if we were on a marketing
> campaign. In this case I would be interested in seeing different
> mock-ups of possible text. But this would be done in conjunction with
> a marketing team tasked with such a particular project, with Italo's
> supervision.

>
> Perhaps we could work on some material that our membership could find
> useful should they decide to send out personal invitations if you
> think this would be helpful. However, I think that our website should
> have enough information available to put together enough of a
> convincing argument to join our membership.
I don't send emails I don't feel are useful :) But point taken... As I
said in my post it's up for grans and if it's useful for someone, good.
The whole point is to expose more the project.

>
> In fact, I am of the opinion that once a person lands on any
> particular site, if they cannot see/find any usefulness for their own
> interest/purposes, then it is not for them. This, in my opinion, is
> what our site should attempt to accomplish: a convincing argument on
> landing at our site, within little delay, and with clear objectives of
> the LibreOffice suite -- downloading should also be easily done. I
> also hold the same opinion on software.
>
> Cheers
>
> Marc
>
>
Agreed 100%, however people need to come to such site in the first
place. In Trisquel's case, no doubt devs know about it, but may not know
about the Q&A site. In their users forums, I am also letting them know
about the project itself. It's also a way to bridge both communities.

On the subject of downloading, I am not so sure the "easily, with little
delay" will be the same for all - not without a good connection, which
is not guaranteed anywhere. I'll start another thread on the marketing
list only later this week.

A+

Fabian

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http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:MagicFab


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