I had a thoughtful response to Brian Miller about Ron Paul, centralism and
gays, but Susan censored it from the LP radicals list.

On 11/1/07, Brian Holtz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  Anthony Gregory wrote to Brian Miller on lpradicals (from which I was
> expelled after my No First Force 
> Pledge<http://marketliberal.org/No1stForce.html>challenge was censored there):
>
> BM) the Republicans (including Ron Paul) are such homophobic bigots that
> [...] (BM
>
> AG)  Ron Paul is not a homophobic bigot. What on earth are you talking
> about? (AG
>
> Anthony, here is some context for you.
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/marketliberal/message/2107 is my unrebutted
> response to Miller's untenable attacks on Paul in
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ca-liberty/message/5181, where you can see
> the previous messages in that thread.   More context is at
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lpsf-discuss/message/13332, to which
> Miller's only response was to complain that Ron Paul, a candidate for the
> GOP nomination, did not answer a survey from the Outright Libertarians.
> Quelle homophobia!
>
> I was soon expelled from lpsf-discuss, where one is not allowed to
> document Outright leaders issuing serial misrepresentations about somebody
> like Ron Paul.  Nevertheless, Miller's claims are a smoking cinder, but good
> luck trying to get a reference to my rebuttals past the censors at
> LPradicals.  My postings are filled with Paul quotes that contradict
> Miller's claims, but you probably won't be allowed to post such evidence
> there even if you keep my name out of it. :-)  (For example, see all the
> unanswered Paul quotes I transcribed for Miller from the Values Voter
> debate: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lpsf-discuss/message/13297.)
>
> In Miller's universe, the only reason to be a radical constitutionalist
> and skeptic of central federal authority is if, despite all of one's public
> statements to the contrary, one secretly favors oppression of gays by states
> and localities.  I told Miller:
>
> You don't have to like Paul's position that the federal government should
> not be -- and textually isn't -- entrusted to do for gay rights what it's
> done for our rights concerning substance use and political expression and
> self-defense and "hate crimes".  I don't either.  But you don't get to
> pretend that's not his position -- at least not without seeming illiterate.
> The fact remains that you cannot produce a single quote from Paul saying
> that he "believes that government -- not individuals -- should be the final
> arbiters of your sex life and the sexual activities of consenting adults." You
> can run from that quote as far as you want, but I've got a brand-new laptop
> and its copy/paste keys are a long way from wearing out.
>



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