I dispute the logic of your pledge. Accepting stolen money, while perhaps
immoral, is not a rights violation in itself. We all live on land that was
at one time stolen. The issue is refusing to engage in aggression yourself.
I am a methodological individualist. Voting is also a victimless crime, even
if it is sometimes immoral.

On 11/1/07, Brian Holtz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  Anthony Gregory wrote to Brian Miller:
>
> AG) Libertarianism is about non-aggression.  (AG
>
> Libertarianism is about minimizing aggression.  Abstinence isn't the only
> way to minimize aggression.
>
> AG)  Clearly, being fired from a government job is not aggression.   No
> one has a right to live at the expense of another.  (AG
>
> Non-anarchist libertarians believe that relevantly similar people have the
> right to equal treatment under the law.  Blind and handicapped would-be
> soldiers are clearly not relevantly similar to straight and gay soldiers,
> who just as clearly as relevantly similar to each other.
>
> AG) How can you disagree with this [and] fancy yourself a libertarian?
>
> You asked a better question when you earlier asked how Miller could fancy
> himself a *radical* libertarian.  Perhaps you and Miller can sort this
> question out by seeing which of you can agree to more elements of the No
> First Force Pledge <http://blog.360.yahoo.com/knowinghumans?p=488> for
> radical libertarians.  I still seek a libertarian radical enough to
> subscribe to the entire pledge.
>



-- 
"There are some troubles from which mankind can never escape. . . . [The
anarchists] have never claimed that liberty will bring perfection; they
simply say that its results are vastly preferable to those that follow from
authority.... As a choice of blessings, liberty is the greater; as a choice
of evils, liberty is the smaller. Then liberty always says the Anarchist. No
use of force except against the invader." — Benjamin Tucker

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