I feel ya

>>> Ralph Dumain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 03/20/2008 1:47 PM
>>>
Paradoxically, it was the events of last weekend, and especially the
aftermath among the talking heads, that put me squarely on Obama's side
for the first time.  I actually was emotionally detached from the
situation--my frame of reference being rather different from the average
person's--until Monday.

And now I'm angry.

I only have a few minutes to get into it now, so I will limit myself to
a few bullet points.

(1) I still haven't heard Obama's speech from start to finish, but from
the snippets I've heard or seen in various venues I say it really makes
a difference when one quotes one or two sentences in isolation vs.
having larger chunks of the speech to work with. 

(2) I am especially upset that the subtleties of Obama's argument get
lost in the process.

(3) I am really pissed when I hear white commentators respond solely by
questioning whether Obama has done enough to distance himself from
Wright.  This was the first thing that upset me, and retrospectively I
am now really upset with the prior and continuing behavior of the
Clinton camp. I am furious that Obama has to be put in this position. 
He could not do more to raise the tone above the level of racial
polarization, and yet the race baiting now accelerates.  Of course we
all expected this, but the entire Democratic Party should be united in
opposing the climate that has been created by this particular sequence
of events.  My worst fears have been aroused, my buttons have been
pushed, and now I'm on the warpath.  I haven't lost sight of the larger
picture behind the superficial popularity contest, but I am seriously
disturbed by the turn this has taken.

(4) I'm wondering how Bill Clinton expects to be received next time he
sets foot out on the streets of Harlem.  If I had more time, I'd have a
few more choice words about him.

(5) I haven't spoken with any Obama supporters for a week, so I haven't
had a chance to canvass their reactions.  I think there is another story
here about the division among white people that I sense at work here. 
What's so weird about this is that it's not--well, not when I checked
last week--even a left-right division, given Obama's support from white
independents and moderate Republicans.  Some whites are now getting a
taste for the first time what race-baiting is like, albeit only by
proxy.  I'm curious to see how they will react.

Others will take the bait and react against Obama.

There is another ironic factor at work, which carries the danger of
becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy: many white people (and black people
too) don't want to vote for Obama because they fear that other white
people won't vote for a black president.  I think this is a significant
factor, and one of the two major factors now occupying the Democratic
leadership.  They are now crunching the numbers to figure out their best
option.  But there are only two factors that really count:

(a) Calculation of the odds as to who can beat McCain;

(b) The Clintons' personal lust for power and the loyalty of their
supporters among the leadership.  They could be bluffing, but they may
not realize that Hillary is finished.


-----Original Message-----
>From: Charles Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Mar 20, 2008 9:06 AM
>To: [email protected] 
>Subject: [Marxism-Thaxis] dream team
>
>I agree with you...but then I "dreamt" on it last night, woke up and
saw
>a poll report that the Independent vote comparison between McCain and
O
>swung from O ahead by ten percent in February to McCain ahead by ten
>percent now and I realized I've been in O's "Dreams from his father"
and
>MLK's dream. And the nightmare of racism in America is still strong
>enough that O can't win.  O's campaign has shown that White Americans
>have come along some compared with  20 years ago, but not enough.
There
>is still too much racism in too many of 'em. 
>
>O's relationship with the Rev. Wright and his church aspect merely
>expresses the fact that O is an average Black person , not a Clarence
>Thomas/Thomas Sowell negro-type.  But his being an actual Black
person
>is what will prevent him from winning. 
>
>I don't know if O can get the nomination. The super-delegates are
>likely to be pragmatic enough to see that America is not quite there
>yet. 
>
>You've come a long way America, but you are not quite to MLK's dream
>land yet.
>
>CB
>
>>>> Ralph Dumain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 03/19/2008 3:06 PM
>>>>
>I don't have time to bore you with the lengthy reasoning,
deliberation,
>and conversation that went into the following conclusions I reached
in
>the past week.
>
>(1) After the Pennsylvania primary, Clinton should withdraw from the
>race.
>
>(2) The Clintons should throw the full weight of their influence
behind
>Obama.
>
>(3) Obama should pick John Edwards as his running mate.
>
>(4) If the Democrats play their cards right, they can beat McCain in
>November.
>
>(5) It will be a tight situation, but even with negative press
>coverage, Obama has enough positive pull in the press to match it. 
The
>positives and negatives for Obama, in comparison to those for
Hillary,
>and also to those for Mccain, come out in favor of Obama, especially
>coupled with Edwards.
>
>(6) Symbolic capital: Though symbolism doesn't mean much to me
>personally, here's how I see it.  Clinton has to follow through on
the
>Pennsylvania primary.  If she were to win by a landslide, that would
be
>an even better time to drop out.  In any case, she will go down in
>history (with Bill) as a person who put the good of the country
against
>vulgar personal ambition; if not the first woman president, then the
>white woman who helped the first black president get elected. Edwards
>has even more positives than Clinton could possibly have. 
Symbolically,
>a Southern white man (with a populist profile) as a junior partner to
>our first black president-elect would pack a symbolic wallop.  Though
it
>won't solve any world problems materially, an Obama(-Edwards) victory
>would drastically elevate the USA's damaged prestige in the world.
>
>I don't say any of this out of a misplaced audacity of hope or any
>radical change I believe in, or any particular political allegiance
to
>Obama.  Given the cards dealt, I think this is the best option.  It's
>good for the Democratic Party, and it's good for the country.
>
>
>
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