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Tomorrow there's an interesting meeting in London in support of independence with Bernadette Devlin McAliskey https://www.facebook.com/events/1489025598010033/ The time line on the page is worth perusing for conflicting POVs...esp from among the English left. There's also this strong advocacy: 'No excuse for No.' by James Meadway -- which keenly explores the actual living dynamic on the ground in Scotland that I was trying to emphasise.. http://www.counterfire.org/articles/opinion/17407-scottish-independence-referendum-no-excuse-for-no Of interest to this thread --- he writes: "This is not about "dividing the class". It is about dividing the state. Independence is not a pure class issue. (Almost nothing ever is.) But English socialists becoming hot and bothered about the "illusions" of nationalism show a stunning lack of self-awareness. Scottish nationalism is not some freakish outgrowth of the far north, whilst support for the British state is merely the natural order of things, to be left unexamined. Those "internationalists" urging a No vote to oppose Scottish nationalism are seeing a mote in their neighbour's eye, but ignoring the beam in their own. Whatever the misdemeanours of Scottish nationalism, they are as nothing compared to the world-historic crimes of British. And support for No is support for British nationalism. "This is the key to the third, decisive, reason to support Yes. It is why the referendum matters so much, north and south of the border. It is the hope raised by RIC: that, contrary to the official Yes campaign, which has been at pains until recently to stress continuity, independence can become a decisive break with the neoliberal politics that have failed most Scots for decades. The campaign has drawn in new political forces, reshaped the radical left, and helped create a national conversation about the type of society Scotland could become." As I suggested: That ethnic minorities may be keenly behind Yes is discussed in this article: 'Why Are So Many Scots From Ethnic Minorities Voting Yes?' http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/06/12/scotland-independence-referendum_n_5488582.html There's also a very useful aggregation of articles available from LINKS http://links.org.au/taxonomy/term/651 dave riley ________________________________________________ Send list submissions to: [email protected] Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
