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Am 05.09.2016 um 16:49 schrieb Dennis Brasky via Marxism:
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How about the N word, homophobic words, anti-Muslim words? Are those OK in
the attempt to "connect" to the (backward sections) of the working class
and minority communities?? Sadly, his defending the most common
misogynistic term has caused me to lose respect for Clay.
On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 10:39 AM, Clay Claiborne via Marxism <
marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote:
On this issue, I remember during the British Miners' Strike in 1984 on
the firs tbig national demo there were 2 slogans raised by some miners
on the first big national demo. One of the was "Ditch the bitch!",
referring to Margaret Thatcher, and the other was "Get your tits out for
the boys!" (the weather was very hot and many women were wearing summer
tops). Women supporters of the miners didn't accept either slogan and
there were many arguments on the demonstration that day where supporters
of the strike (also many left-wing men) argued with these strikers about
the use of demeaning language against women. These slogans were never
used again on any of the later local and national demos.
Admittedly there were some (nearly all men) who argued that the first
slogan was an expression of class hatred and the second was just a bit
of playful banter, but it was perfectly correct for the comrades to
challenge the sexism they expressed.
One other related issue - for years there'd been a campaign by
socialists and feminists about the fact that every month in The Miner,
the union paper, there was a topless picture of a miner's wife or girl
friend. The editor argued that the women themsleves were queueing up to
have they're pictures published. During the strike these pictures were
dropped and never appeared in the paper again.
Accepting sexism in the working class in any form is just as divisive as
accepting racism in any form and it's prefectly correct for socialists
to take issue with both these expressions of backward ideas.
Einde O'Callaghan
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