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Hmm...no sure who Louis was referring to as a 'grad student'. The second piece in JRs posting was by one John Leslie. He's my age, about 60, and a carpenter union member and has been active in movement politics (both left and union) in the Phili area for 20 years or more. Just say'n... David Walters _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com