******************** POSTING RULES & NOTES ******************** #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. *****************************************************************
Barry, check out George Caffentzis, "Why Machines Cannot Create Value: Marx’s Theory of Machines" from *In Letters of Blood and Fire*. PDF of entire book available at https://libcom.org/library/george-caffentzis-letters-blood-fire On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 12:09 PM, Barry Brooks via Marxism < marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote: > ******************** POSTING RULES & NOTES ******************** > #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. > #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. > #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. > ***************************************************************** > > DW, > > Without labor all income would be profit. The limit of productivity is > full unemployment, and the necessary transformation of the working > class into owners. > > Marx would not be so slow to see the changes we face, but he was not > a follower. > > Barry > > > Barry initiated an interesting digression...Barry believes our species to > > be parasites. How interesting and indeed, anti-Marxist. That the root of > > the labor theory of Value is that we, humanity, take nature, build tools, > > and change our environment. Boo hoo. Back to the trees you scallywags!!!! > > There is no hope!!! No, Marx allowed us to analyses capitalism. > Everything > > else is about how we use that analysis. There is no profit without labor, > > regardless of what it is you automate. It just changes where that power > of > > the working class lies. I suggest as an intro probably the best peice of > > Marxist analysis I've read in the last 5 years as a start before you > start > > raising he Green flag off that branch you are clearly sitting on. > > > > https://www.jacobinmag.com/2015/02/logistics-industry-organizing-labor/ > _________________________________________________________ > Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm > Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/ > options/marxism/fred.r.murphy%40gmail.com > _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
