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Here's that write-up on Ocasio-Cortez's visit to Michigan. https://thebaffler.com/the-poverty-of-theory/the-vital-possibility-of-el-sayed-alvarez And here's El-Sayed's response to a question about DSA: And have you reached out to groups like DSA or sought their endorsement?” *El-Sayed*: “We’ve had great conversations, and we share a lot of ideals, [but] I don’t like labels. Here’s the thing: in science, one of the concepts you start to appreciate deeply is that a large portion of science is about replicability. And replicability implies that you can communicate the same shared set of ideas universally. If a word has slippery meanings, and there’s slippage in the way the word works for people, then you miscommunicate, and when you miscommunicate you can’t replicate, and when you can’t replicate that’s the death of science. “I come from that world, where we pick our words very carefully and very thoughtfully. And I think that the term “socialism” is too slippery of a word right now, and it evokes too many different things to too many different people. I think for a millennial the word “socialism” is spelled with a lower-case “s,” and it implies an engagement of government in some of the most important aspects of our lives to ensure and address a level of equity that we have not had . . . And then, I think for people who are over the age of sixty, it implies a history that was some of the most fearful in their lives. And I think because it evokes different meanings politically it’s just not a useful term. And so, I don’t really care that much about the [socialist] label, I care about the work . . . I respect what DSA is working on and what they do. We have a lot we share—a lot in common. I consider us to be sister and brothers in the work.” On Tue, Aug 7, 2018, 11:35 AM Mark Lause via Marxism < marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote: > ******************** POSTING RULES & NOTES ******************** > #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. > #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. > #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. > ***************************************************************** > > I don't think there's any inconsistency between electoral politics in the > here and now with "pragmatism." > > Her explicit falsification of Democratic party history--I think that was at > that recent conference of "progressive" Democrats--was absolutely BS. > > ML > _________________________________________________________ > Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm > Set your options at: > http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/michnied%40mail.gvsu.edu > _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
