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J Green described my view of Venezuela and socialism as follows:

"This is
the same Lebowitz who talks about about how Venezuela is a model of socialism
for the 21st century and lauds its democracy as an alternative to the "real
socialism" of the Soviet model. ("What Is Socialism for the Twenty-First
Century?",
https://monthlyreview.org/2016/10/01/what-is-socialism-for-the-twenty-first-century
/)."
    This is simply an idiotic distortion. Green should try reading. I have never described Venezuela as a model of socialism; rather, I have stressed that there has been a struggle for socialism within it. In an interview in a Serbian paper in 2012 on the prospects for Chavez's 4th election [reprinted in Links and Venezuelanalysis-- venezuelanalysis.com/analysis/7417], I noted the development of communal councils and continued:

This is a process that has been described by Chavez as one of creating the cells of a new socialist state. As well, there is a process of development of workers’ councils. Here again it is a process of transforming people, of creating the conditions in which they are able to develop all their capacities. In particular, the Bolivarian Revolution has been creating people with a sense of dignity and pride.

These are very important achievements. But they don’t happen smoothly, and it is important to recognise there are many contradictions within /Chavism/. There are three groups and tendencies within /Chavism/. One can be found at the base with the social movements, the communities and portions of the working class. Another is composed of those individuals and groups that have risen with Chavez but, having enriched themselves through their positions and through the continuation of corruption and clientalism, now think the revolution should be over – and it is for them. (They are often referred to as the “boli-bourgeoisie”.) A third group is committed to continuing the revolution but doing so entirely from the top down; its perspective is one of ordering the advance of socialism, and it does not want to leave decisions at the bottom.

While Chavez himself is very vocal about the theoretical importance of building at the base and allowing people to develop their capacities through their own protagonism, he is impatient and often supports those who don’t have the same orientation.

So, what will happen in Chavez’s next term of office? That depends on class struggle within the Chavez camp. It would be a struggle which revolves around Chavez’s party (the United Socialist Party of Venezuela, PSUV), which contains all these elements but in which the top-down orientation has dominated and at the same time dispirited many people at the base.

    As for not bothering to meet with the 'critical chavistas' or PSOL leaders, I assume Fred Fuente's interest was in exploring what was happening at the base rather than meeting [in the limited time available] leaders with no followers whose positions are well-known.

     michael



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Michael A. Lebowitz
Professor Emeritus
Economics Department
Simon Fraser University
8888 University Drive
Burnaby, B.C., Canada V5A 1S6
Home:   Phone 604-689-9510
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