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On Nov 18, 2009, at 10:17 AM, nada wrote:
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> I think even contemplating how animals "value" anything is a  
> ridiculous
> supposition with no evidence.

Well, everyone must agree that we have lots of evidence of how members  
of one particular animal species values things.  The evidence is  
behavioral, not language-dependent.  The same sort of evidence applies  
to all the other species.
To suggest otherwise is...a ridiculous supposition.

Shane Mage

> This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it
> always was and is and shall be: an everlasting fire,
> kindling in measures and going out in measures."
>
> Herakleitos of Ephesos

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