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It's way more than part crap.  Overpopulation is NO cause of poverty. It is 
not a "lesser one among many," because it simply doesn't exists separate and 
apart from the development of the social productivity of labor, and the 
class relations that encapsulate that productivity.

When the ZPG groups argue for ZPG, all they are stating is that capital as 
capital, as expanded profit,  can no longer sustain an advancement in 
productivity capable of supporting the CURRENT population, much less an 
increasing one.

"Even if we build a socialist economy.....?"  We will never build a 
socialist economy by proclaiming overpopulation as a cause of capitalist 
induced poverty and scarcity.

If there ever was an argument that reeked of imperialist privilege, this 
argument about overpopulation as a cause of poverty is it.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Barry Brooks" <dura...@earthlink.net>
<sartes...@earthlink.net>
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 4:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Marxism] The limits to growth lurk behind these issues.


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>> I knew it was part crap, but I had hoped that something worthwhile was
> included.
>
> Since more than one factor is involved I was wrong to say that
> overpopulation causes poverty, because it has been only a lesser one of
> many causes. I don't disagree that injustice has been a more important
> cause of poverty.
>
> Even if we build a socialist economy the limits to scale will finally
> need accounting too.
>
> Barry


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