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Yes, kind of reminds one of what the colonized in the 13 colonies, the
African slaves of the civil war, the Cubans, and African-Americans of the
50s-60s were willing to do for their freedom. Instructive to the
imperialists and revolutionists alike about Afghanis, Iranians, Iraqis,
Palestinians, and, now, international humanitarians. 

Amazing the pre-occupations of privileged "Americans" when they observe the
object lessons of history; as it unfolded and as it unfolds.

in the end Hanoi was 
> more
> stoical or bloodthirsty or willing to sacrifice lives than the 
> Americans
> were. 

now we learn that an invaded (and almost exterminated) people won the war
because it was more bloodthirsty than the invader. 
a very nice way to see the things, indeed...



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