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>  If Harvey is right, that capital never solves its crisis tendencies,
>  it merely moves them around,/ /then where in this recurrent cycle do
>  we effectively intervene to exhaust this threadbare pattern? I don't
>  see that anyone has found the answer, but that's surely the question.
>  Will it be in a time not of conjunctural but rather of structural
>  limits, where the alternatives no longer deceive or meet minimum
>  requirements for legitimation, when limits can no longer be turned
>  into barriers to be overcome?
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I (and everyone else on the list) have been thinking about this. it seems to
me that what is happening is a general degrading of people's morale.  For
example Harvey mentioned that Australia was "prospering".  Well it certainly
doesn't feel like it to the people.  The recent election showed that my home
state Qld is generally resentful and pissed off.
granted that it is true that a lot of that negative feeling is directing
safely into fears and hatreds of the boat people or refugees. But Labour
copped a hiding at the polls largely because they were in office.

What is happening of course is that the Reserve bank carefully keeps
unemployment high and thus the "animal spirits" of the working class firmly
in check. After all the workers are not suppposed to have animal spirits.
Above all the ruling class and their avatars will move heaven and earth to
maintain labour discipline and prevent a return to the wonderful
ill-discipline of the 60s.

If we look at Harvey's formula of Wage Repression - Depressed Demand -Debt-
Financial Crisis- Fiscal Crisis- Austerity & attack on Social Wage we can
see that the only time in the cycle the workers could feel well was when
they were spending money they did not have- the Piling up of Debt
interlude.

We are now entering into the austerity phase.  Everyone, including the
working class, knows their role here.  There is naturally grumbling from
those who are about to get shafted.  I put the election of Red Ed down to
the union bureaucracy trying to signal their discontent and need to be
involved in the process of shafting the workers.  Nothing more than that.

The big question is what will the workers do?  No one knows the answer.  The
workers, I repeat understand they are supposed to tighten their belts and
"Work for Britain" or the equivalent.

None of this however is an exact science and a miscalculation like
Thatcher's Poll tax could transform the workers' stoicism into anger and set
them  off on a spiral of resistance which if it involves other social layers
such as students could lead to a number of decisive confrontations.

However i am not overly optimistic about Britain.  I am still looking
towards Greece and the Arab world especially Egypt for a meaningful rupture
with the common sense that is being spread by the Murdoch and other media.
One thing however remains certain; when the break comes we, all of us, will
be surprised.

comradely

Gary
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