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  Gary MacLennan wrote:

it seems to me that what is happening is a general degrading of people's 
morale...

The big question is what will the workers do? No one knows the answer. 
The workers, I repeat understand they are supposed to tighten their 
belts and "Work for Britain" or the equivalent.

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I am reminded again that, If this system of predatory capital 
accumulation and expansion no longer works for the great majority of us, 
and more and more billions of people on the planet are dis-served and 
impoverished under the system of capital accumulation and it isn't 
getting any better for them but palpably worse - - then why on earth 
would any working person think of capitalist, barbaric, dystopian 
solutions as real and the prospect of annealing, socially-based 
solutions as frivolously utopian?

One reason (and it's cause for circumspection and humility among us who 
are over forty or fifty), is that most of those now living, who were 
born in the last forty years, have seldom or never seen success from 
acting together as insurgents against capital - one might only have seen 
the collapse of the Soviet states, the reversion of China, Vietnam, and 
possibly to some extent the modification of the long, 
direct-in-their-face Cuban experiment, to capitalism of one sort or 
another; or recall that the last massive protest, ten million or more 
worldwide against the US invasion and occupation of Iraq, ended without 
accomplishing anything meaningful as a result of our efforts and 
outrage; to the present truculent smashing and containment of small 
groups of protesters against the US's middle eastern wars and at the 
political conventions; the increasingly mechanized, automated and 
computerized surveillance and remote-controlled destruction across the 
planet; the absence of workers' strikes and work stoppages and sit-ins 
and sabotage; all have jobs to keep, debts to pay, offspring to protect. 
The directors of the capitalist enterprise have really pulled off a long 
wool-over, if now somewhat in disarray; and that's all been hard on the 
collective identity, and the wind has becalmed and temporarily left the 
collective sails.

We didn't see or have a part in the trembling of Europe and the general 
euphoria at the time of the Paris Commune in 1871, the mid-19th century 
revolt against slavery, the paralysis of the great powers after the 1st 
World War when Russia and some of its eastern European neighbors joined 
in the Soviet state; those under fifty did not see the stand down of 
capital in China in the 1940s, the incomprehension and anger in the time 
of Eisenhower, John Foster Dulles and the Kennedys when Cuba had its 
revolution just off-shore in the late 50s, the fear of the Johnson and 
Nixon coteries at the fierceness of the Vietnamese resistance and the 
massive protest against the Vietnam War, the great civil rights marches 
and rage in the ghettos and the liberation of Algeria and numerous 
African and Asian colonies, all in the 60s, the breaking forth also of 
righteous anger in France, the US, the rest of Europe and elsewhere in 
1968, or the retreat of US imperialism from Vietnam in the 70s; and 
those workers' strikes and work stoppages and sit-ins and sabotage which 
the working class heartbreakingly undertook in the 19th and the 1st 70 
or 80 years of the last century. There are still some outposts of 
resistance in the last forty years - the change in South Africa in the 
90s, Cuba, Venezuela, the resistance in among other places Iraq, 
Afghanistan, Iran, Yemen, Nigeria, Nicaragua and Somalia. But not enough 
to sustain a feeling of our collective strength.

That's not, as we say, the end of history. Our faith in a species that 
has been so astoundingly creative and resourceful throughout its history 
is fully justified - and not simply because the privileged captains of 
capital have with ingenuity overcome so many of their barriers to 
predatory accumulation. They're not in the least more ingenious: they've 
just have had an easier and better learning curve because they wield the 
power and therefore can more readily learn the ways.

We who are or who align with workers live, we learn, we scratch our 
heads, study, tack, fulminate, gesticulate, innovate and maneuver, 
charge and fall back; just look at how much more we understand, thanks 
initially and mainly to Marx and Engels, all the time about the system 
to which we are subject and how it operates, as we accrue experience and 
a lengthening history of struggle; that experience and knowledge 
permeates broadly and is not lost in the working out of our destiny and 
common welfare. Remembering that it took several years for protest to 
build from the mindless late 20s into the 1930s, and all of the 
foregoing great history of struggle, can we really seriously doubt, dear 
llst members, facrissake that the time of those who bear the load is 
very soon to arrive again.

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