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Who’s the real idealist here Louis?, you quote some cherry-picked
statistics which have nothing to say about the class struggle (ooops… I forgot
Latin America is still feudalist) in Ecuador, you presuppose that Correa, or
whatever bourgeois progressive government acts in isolation from the
limitations of the form in which capital accumulates imposed by the world
market, as if Correa materialized healthcare out of his divine good heart, and
to top it all off, to justify your claims, you **schematically** accuse the
arguments contrary to your opinions as schematic, when you started the whole
shebang by derailing the discussion with abstract labels, putting S.Artesian in 
the "ultra-leftist" bag as a real "materialist". 
Can I be blunt? Who
gives a s*** about Bordiga, or how the macabre Goldner has influenced the
“ideology” of S.Artesian? Is this a list to throw personal s*** off, or are we
gonna talk about the real s*** that’s going on. 


Does it occur to you Louis?, that there might be a lot of
people who don’t clash with YOUR views because they don’t wanna get into the
kind of personalistic labeling bulls*** you just started, but build some unity
in order to get some objective understanding of politics from a critical
Marxist perspective in order to have some consciousness brought into new
generations of leftists, as opposed to your arrogant patronizing. I never
bought an ounce of your ideological interpretation of your monthly review 
dependency theory which
not even dependency theorists believe in anymore. But, whatever, I was more than
willing to argue about that, reasonably; it now seems that every Marxist in the
Proyectite world would disagree however. 


And let’s see who’s disagreed with S.Artesian so far: Nestor (obviously), 
Manuel Barrera (a given), Joaquin (eeehhh let’s leave it at
“contradictory”), you, 

and who’s shown similar concerns –which I can’t believe it
has to be, but I will clarify, does not imply support for the coup-: Joseph
Catron, Dennis Brasky, Greg McDonald, David Walters, and I. So, 4 to 5,
approximately, sorry if I left anyone out, but, we won! courtesy of 
kindergarden mathematics for MARXIST personal accusations.


Way to build a serious non-sectarian list….the only one who seems to
have time to waste around here is you, I’m afraid. I have to ask you, do you 
think that nobody notices these cheap rhetorical tricks? what gives?
                                          
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