On Mon, Sep 7, 2020, at 18:55, Roger Kulp wrote:
> The point of the Grayzone article was the fact the DSA/Jacobin conference was 
> the abandonment of,or softening of,anti-imperialist views by many in the 
> leadership of the DSA,and allowing a positive space for speakers who had ties 
> to groups like the National Endowment For Democracy.That the DSA was no 
> longer what it was before July,2019.That they had sold out.As for the 
> clenched fist,sometimes symbols have deeper meaning.One cannot deny the role 
> US government in various color revolutions,in much of Eastern Europe,and the 
> Middle East. 

The event was until this year an ISO conference, not DSA. And as the article 
makes clear with examples like Anand Gopal, the same speakers have been 
speaking for over a decade and they are people who are true internationalists 
and anti-imperialists.

It hasn't changed, they simply want to claim it has, I guess because anyone who 
looks will see them and their friends were once speakers and attendees, until 
they became defenders of war and standing against internationalism -- not the 
other way around.

I've been attending for 15 years, it is Blumenthal and his crew who has sold 
out and have resorted to conspiracy theories over Marxist analysis to explain 
uprising. Which is why they must attack people like Anand Gopal, Gilber Achcar 
and Dan La Botz as somehow compromised in the conspiracy.

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