Dan, Thank you for dealing with reality - it is also clear to me that the U. S. Left, is unorganized and incapable of physical fighting the fascists. They are mostly comfortable academics and students - and the only thing, is to urge people to vote for Biden in those Swing States.
Sure Biden is a Wall Street servant and militarist, but the isolated sectarians on this list are no different than the liberals and reformists, offering nothing to do in the period ahead - NOTHING! They sound like the Germany CP in the early 1930's, calling the social democrats: "social fascists" and not uniting with them to stop the Nazis. So the Trump fascists are mobilizing - and the so radically pure - are clicking their computer offering NOTHING to proclaim they are "revolutionaries". I never before in my entire life, supported a corporate democratic party presidential candidate in the November presidential elections, since able to vote in 1972. But I can clearly see what the relations of power are - and agree with your sane assessment of where things truly are. Thank you for adding your name to those thinking. Ignore the badly isolated sectarians representing NOTHING - in actual reality. They will just bravely sit before their computers to stop fascism! The Trumpsters are more serious than these "revolutionary" computer keyboard clickers. I suggest to those who claim to be "so revolutionary" to abstain from struggle - that they might want to read: The Struggle Against Fascism in Germany by Leon Trotsky when he addresses "the overestimation of ones own forces - as adventurism" And Vladimir Lenin had some words about the same most "revolutionary" academics who sat in the Paris cafes criticizing - far from struggle and reality. - and they also surprise, did NOTHING! Time is too short to bicker and criticize - yet do NOTHING. Get off your comfortable consumerist couches and do something about reality. Dan has - if you do not like his analysis about objective conditions - so where is the left militias that you "revolutionary critics" are organizing instead, as an alternative? Surely you are not going to suggest just voting for some third party candidate, is sufficient to stop fascists? ________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Dan La Botz <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 7:55 PM To: Marxism List <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [marxmail] » Open Letter: Dump Trump, Then Battle Biden Thanks for your thoughtful remark, Jim. These people appreciate it. Dan On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 10:29 PM Dayne Goodwin <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 6:34 PM Jim Brash via groups.io<https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fgroups.io%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C6a98facf5e25494040f308d860356410%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637365129709178121&sdata=UACzJFKkoeO7ARblpxnRqlvwCID23xo216Lpm3G3pIA%3D&reserved=0> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I wonder if these people realize that joining the Biden camp they'll be closing the door on independent politics. You sheepdog once you usually herd the sheep forever. They all keep saying that Biden can be pushed left. Where's the evidence? _._,_._,_ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#1876): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/1876 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/77050886/21656 -=-=- POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. -=-=- Group Owner: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/marxmail/leave/8674936/1316126222/xyzzy [[email protected]] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
