On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 6:34 PM Jim Brash via groups.io <[email protected]> wrote: > > I wonder if these people realize that joining the Biden camp they'll be > closing the door on independent politics. You sheepdog once you usually herd > the sheep forever. . .
One of my mentors, the late Peter Camejo, used to say "The Republicans frankly assert what the capitalists want and the Democrats say 'vote for us we'll be 5% nicer.'" Persuading people to take an empirical "lesser evil" stance is intrinsic to the functioning of the capitalists' two party system. Those who think in those capitalist-system-accepting terms are unlikely to be able to change and pursue the interest of workers and oppressed peoples in socialist revolution (imo revolutionary strategy requires politically independent working class organization). I think that's why the same 'radical stars' in the capitalist firmament repetitively argue election after election that "this time" the priority is to defeat the Republican capitalists and therefore we must give our support to the Democrat capitalists. This kind of 'pragmatic' justification for class collaboration has dominated the U.S. left; look around at putrefying capitalism and you can see where this has gotten working people. Jim Obrien does not provide the evidence that Jim Brash asked for, Obrien has a two-prong strategy for defeating fascism: click your computer AND vote for Biden. Dayne On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 6:34 PM Jim Brash via groups.io <[email protected]> wrote: > > I wonder if these people realize that joining the Biden camp they'll be > closing the door on independent politics. You sheepdog once you usually herd > the sheep forever. They all keep saying that Biden can be pushed left. > Where's the evidence? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#1877): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/1877 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/77033136/21656 -=-=- POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. -=-=- Group Owner: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/marxmail/leave/8674936/1316126222/xyzzy [[email protected]] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
