I do not know German, but it would help me to have an exact literal
(word-for-word) translation of the sentences Garrido and Matt focus on. Why?
Because the word "bestimmt" appears only once in the second sentence in German,
but there are two iterations of the English word which translates it
("determines") in the Matt-translated second sentence. I am a lawyer and a
historian as well as ignorant of German word meanings and prose patterns. I
need to know precisely what each word in the sentence says, translating it word
for word, before I can make a judgment about how to better state what I think
is meant. The German does not APPEAR to be written in the nice pleasant,
it-is-not-A-that-determines-B-but-B-that-determines-A neatly packaged kind of
prose into which it has been translated. Thanks, Wythe
> On June 25, 2021 at 3:34 PM Michael Meeropol <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> thank you, Matt. THis makes it clear that just as with English, German
> DISTINGUISHES between those two words which makes the article's focus on the
> nuanced differences between them quite valuable, in my opinion ---
>
> On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 1:44 PM Matt <[email protected]
> mailto:[email protected] > wrote:
>
> > > The two sentences Garrido emphasises are as follows:
> >
> > Die Produktionsweisedes materiellen Lebens bedingt den sozialen,
> > politischen und geistigenLebensprozeß überhaupt. Es ist nicht das
> > Bewußtsein der Menschen, das ihr Sein,sondern umgekehrt ihr
> > gesellschaftliches Sein, das ihr Bewußtsein bestimmt.
> >
> > and
> >
> > The mode of production of material life conditions the general
> > process of social, political and intellectual life. It is not the
> > consciousness of men that determines their existence, but their social
> > existence that determines their consciousness.
> >
> > Thus,
> >
> > conditions = bedingt [bedingen]
> >
> > determines = bestimmt [bestimmen]
> >
> >
> >
> > >
>
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