I have tremendous respect for Michael Yates --- but I totally disagree ---

think of all the undergraduates and graduate students who found a home and
learned a helluva lot ---

It was a U Mass faculty member (forget who) who made the case for Bernie
Sanders' program --- I know it ain't left enough for some (most?) of us ---
but considering the US political system, having a program like that
JUSTIFIED by solid empirical research is useful not harmful.

Paul Sweezy worked for the TNEC (Temporary Nattional Economic Committee)
during the New Deal --- Harry Magdoff designed the Survey of Current
Business when he worked for the Department of Commerce --- didn't make them
any less Marxist ...

Of course I'm somewhat biased having "leaned on" the people at U Mass and
elsewhere in the Pioneer Valley of W. Mass for support as I tried to make
my own way in a decidedly non-radical department in a decidedly non-elite
institution --- and I'm sure I'm rather typical of people who worked in the
economics field during the 1970s and 80s and took great comfort in the
existence of radical faculty --- just as in the 1950s and early 1960s Paul
Baran was a beacon of hope and opportunity for lots of leftists ....

Nevertheless, I think the years of "leftist" economists at U. Mass was much
more positive than Michael believes ---

It was U Mass economists and graduate students who started the Center for
Popular Economics which ran very valuable workshops for activists many
summers (I taught in a couple myself and can testify to the value it was
for the participants) ---

I could go on and on about the useful writing that many of the U Mass folks
did --- I myself found UNDERSTANDING CAPITALISM by Bowles and Edwards
(later, Bowles, Edwards and Roosevelt, and now I think Mehrene Larudee is a
co-author) a wonderful way of introducing radical economics to principles
of economics students ---

One valuable class based time series created by a couple of U Mass folks
was THE COST OF LOSING YOUR JOB which was a very valuable way of
introducing class struggle at the point of production ....

etc

CHACUN A SON GOUT! --- we'll have to agree to disagree ...

On Sun, Jul 4, 2021 at 1:00 PM Michael Yates <[email protected]> wrote:

> I thought it was great when UMass-Amherst hired radical economists. Now,
> however, the whole thing seems much less impressive. We drove Herb Gintis
> off the Pen-l list decades ago, because he had already moved so far to the
> right. Sam Bowles never moved that far right, but he certainly wouldn't be
> considered a Marxist today. And look at the foolishness Robert Pollin has
> been putting out about growth and the Green New Deal. James Crotty? Not
> much there now either. One thing that struck me (I taught in Labor Studies
> at UMass for many years, in a special program for union staff and members)
> is that these economists had virtually no working-class roots. I remember
> David Houston joking about how all of these "star" radical economists spent
> an inordinate amount of time at URPE conferences talking with one another
> about their upper-class acquaintances. They for the most part had nothing
> at all in common with me. Harry and Paul at MR were not much impressed with
> them.
> _._,_._,_
>
>


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