On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 02:01 PM, hari kumar wrote:

> 
> there had clearly been progress for the masses. But the number of slums in
> the city. and the condition of the ex-peasant moved into the city was
> pretty poor.

Sure, Hari. But could you not say the same about the USSR in the 30's? I think 
China is perhaps more contradictory in that the relative standard of the urban 
masses is higher (positive) but at the expense of removal of the iron rice bowl 
and greater inequality (negative).

What is your view of the Godels article which began this thread? I posted it 
because I appreciated his understanding of the PRC "as a complex creation with 
a complex– often contradictory– relationship with other countries as well as 
the socialist project" and conclusion that "the cause of socialism is ill 
served by either ignoring or exaggerating both missteps and victories in the 
PRC’s revolutionary path.”


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