Thank you, Hari. VERY THOUGHTFUL -- will require re-reading and more thought --- BUT you have correctly hit on the issue that "bothers" me --- and (on first read) I believe there does not appear to be any kind of "easy" answer ---
quick thought about "nation" and religion --- Oftentimes, a national "grouping" will utilize the "same" religion as one of the building blocks --- In the case of black South Africa (Steve Biko style) the argument was the COMMON EXPERIENCES had "forged" a "Black South African Nation" but the fact that most black South Africans had adopted Christianity over the centuries of White occupation and domination played a role in that commonality .... YET, as we know from the internal fighting that occurred soon after Mandela was released from prison (certainly "encouraged" by the petit-nationalist opportunism of BUteliezi as well as the Apartheid dead-enders) such "nationalist" identification --- in Butelezis' case by the Zulu ethnic group( -- did not disappear just because Mandela was released. Lots to think about of course .... thanks again, Mike On Tue, Apr 23, 2024 at 9:03 AM hari kumar via groups.io <hari6.kumar= gmail....@groups.io> wrote: > Michael M: > Honestly, I was hesitant about wading into the national question matter > that you raised. Because it is an incredibly complex matter which starts > from the definition of 'what is a nation?". This postulate as expressed > here, will inevitably spark differences. None will be easily resolvable > because inevitably statements will require historical detailing. But > perhaps a couple of simple points can be usefully made without need of much > external referencing. > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#30053): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/30053 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/105672267/21656 -=-=- POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. #4 Do not exceed five posts a day. -=-=- Group Owner: marxmail+ow...@groups.io Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/marxmail/leave/8674936/21656/1316126222/xyzzy [arch...@mail-archive.com] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
