Hi, I think this is an important discussion and I am regarding all your questions in that spirit.
i) The question of "lesser-evilism" - Biden is of course as you point out > just another face of ruthless capital. But, open fully-fledged fascism does > have worse consequences of organising for the possibility of confronting > capital within the USA. Query: Is this not true? > I'm not convinced that Trump is a fascist. I think Trumpism is a different sort of right wing populism. I'm not convinced of how stable it is. Modi is different; I think he's more fascist in his style. ii) You say that the DP is not where the workers are. Query: Where are > they, in the context of reaching to them for purposes of organisation and > exposure? > I'm not in the US but I think there there are some in the Democratic Party, some in the Republican Party and a lot abstaining. I don't think those in the Democratic Party believe it's furthering revolutionary struggle, just listening a bit more kindly. With the exception of the high numbers of abstainers, it's similar elsewhere in the West. iii) You say that the Leninist policy of 'the rope and hanged persons' is > outdated and not needed. But you and all on this list (as far as I can see > - regardless of *origin* and background and current societal "status") - > are on a completely different wicket and category than the 'average' voter > or member of society. Query: Why do you think these others have no > illusions about the 'normal, democratic path'? > Because (and I'm only talking about Western countries here) I don't think most workers are thinking about these parties as revolutionary. Lenin was living in a time when British workers did have those illusions because there were radical mass membership unions behind the British Labour Party. iv) If there is one certain way that the people can move beyond that is to > be organised in a wide movement - what is that movement to you? Query: What > is the role of an independent party explicitly Marxist or something? > > I wish I had the answers. I think there will be a place for an explicitly Marxist organisation, whether a party or some other form of organisation. But it has to come *out of* a mass movement. It can't be a substitute. Comradely, John > ___._,_ > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#30277): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/30277 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/105891162/21656 -=-=- POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. #4 Do not exceed five posts a day. -=-=- Group Owner: marxmail+ow...@groups.io Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/marxmail/leave/8674936/21656/1316126222/xyzzy [arch...@mail-archive.com] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
