There is a reason for the silence of the ultra left sectarians in the face of the soft left "national experts", just as there is a reason the ultra left sectarians in effect see no difference between the Democrats and the present day Republicans. The reason is this: Those who are serious about the working class being an independent force in society actually speak up in the open. We actually try to build a working class opposition not only to the capitalists but also to the union leadership, which keeps the unions linked to the capitalists. And we recognize that it will be many times more difficult to organize anything under conditions of dictatorship (AKA bonapartism) than under bourgeois democracy. For the ultra left sectarians, dictatorship or democracy doesn't really matter since they won't be doing anything in practice anyway. They figure that if they just flap their lips in their nice safe little echo chambers that the likes of Trump will leave them alone.
They are a perfect example of what Trotsky said: That ultra left sectarianism is just opportunism standing in fear of itself. On Thu, Jul 4, 2024 at 6:13 AM John Reimann <[email protected]> wrote: > It really makes me laugh when I see the likes of mbaugher denounce me for > having voted for Biden in 2020. In the first place, as is typical of the > sectarians, he hides behind the issue of Biden's support for Israel's > genocidal war. The fact is that he and the other sectarians consider it to > be a matter of absolute principle, good for all times and places, to never > vote for any bourgeois Democrat. That's the real issue. Of course, I didn't > notice these sectarians attack the entire left in Brazil for supporting the > bourgeois Lula against Bolsonaro in the second round of the elections > there. But what does consistency matter to the sectarians? > > But more to the point: When Baugher & Co. organized a forum on the "new" > labor movement, they made sure that there would not be a single speaker who > opposed the union leadership's absolute support for the Democrats. Then, 2 > of the 3 speakers predictably defended those links, while the third one > focused on petty details. What was the response of these ferocious > "Marxists"? They were quiet as a churchmouse. Then, after I expressed my > opposition to that connection, Baugher clearly considered this to be beyond > the pale. > > It's all too typical: shout and rage about the Democrats in these nice, > safe ultra-left echo chambers and then, when confronted with the soft left > "national experts" be quiet as a churchmouse. > > John Reimann > > -- > *“Science and socialism go hand-in-hand.” *Felicity Dowling > Check out:https:http://oaklandsocialist.com also on Facebook > -- *“Science and socialism go hand-in-hand.” *Felicity Dowling Check out:https:http://oaklandsocialist.com also on Facebook -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#31000): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/31000 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/106994799/21656 -=-=- POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. #4 Do not exceed five posts a day. -=-=- Group Owner: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/marxmail/leave/8674936/21656/1316126222/xyzzy [[email protected]] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
