My short take on this: You would never have had a Republican Party without the earlier efforts at both electoral insurgency--the Liberty Party/National Reformers, and the later Free Democrats, many involved in direct action resistance in Kansas and on the Underground Railroad. We will have no successful insurgency unless it grows from mass movements in which people are voting with their lives 24/7 to defeat an inhuman order. For the present, we are capable of making the point that needs to be made.
On Wed, Jul 10, 2024 at 1:34 PM Mark Lause via groups.io <markalause= [email protected]> wrote: > You'll find some useful elements in here. > > https://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctv69tg5b > > > On Wed, Jul 10, 2024 at 11:02 AM Steven L. Robinson via groups.io > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Mark, >> >> Good points all. >> >> The best and, as far as I can recall, only successful break with the two >> party system in U.S. history on a national level was the one that gave rise >> to the Republican Party, which was not the result of the will of a single >> charismatic individual or a single political tendency or sect but a coming >> together of different forces in the abolitionist and other radical and not >> so radical movements as well as disaffected members of the two main >> parties. And it was breathtakingly quick, within two presidential election >> cycles the Republican Party became the ruling party and the Whigs had been >> extinguished on a national level. The leading elected officials of the >> Republican Party were mostly former Whigs, like Lincoln, who were united >> (loosely) under a new platform. >> >> I wonder if there are any studies of the formation of the Republican >> Party from a Marxist perspective. >> >> SR >> >> On 07/10/2024 8:06 AM PDT Mark Lause <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> A few thoughts here on the campaigns of West and Stein. >> >> 2. Related to this is the fact that they are running separate campaigns. >> Part of the moralizing nonsense of that protest vote "speaking truth to >> power" crap is the idea that it means something to run your own, separate >> "principled" campaign. It's not distinct to the West and Stein campaigns, >> of course. There are half a dozen, if not more, socialist campaigns. What >> these things are actually saying by doing that is that building a movement >> party is less important than recruiting people to my sect. >> >> We have a number of options of candidates opposed to the duopoly with >> politics that can be supported in principle. Rally behind the one with the >> biggest numbers and we have the best chance of kicking the most serious >> hole in this rust bucket of the corporate political system. >> >> I don't even want to hear why the Greens are mad at West or why West >> couldn't go with the Greens. It's all bullshit. Get serious and pull >> together or step aside. >> >> >> >> > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#31090): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/31090 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/107144290/21656 -=-=- POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. #4 Do not exceed five posts a day. -=-=- Group Owner: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/marxmail/leave/8674936/21656/1316126222/xyzzy [[email protected]] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
