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Gerardo Rojas is a community organiser in Barquisimeto, Lara, and a Chavista 
activist, a reference to the political movement of the working-class poor that 
backed former Venezuelan president Hugo Chávez. A founder of the alternative 
media collective Voces Urgentes ( https://vocesurgentes.wordpress.com/ ) 
(Urgent Voices) in 2002, he participated in one of the first urban communes, 
Comuna Socialista Ataroa (2007). Rojas was a vice-minister in the Ministry of 
Communes in 2015 and is part of the communication, education and political 
activism collective Tatuy TV ( https://tatuytv.org/quienes-somos/ ) , though 
the opinions expressed in this interview are his own. Speaking to Federico 
Fuentes for LINKS International Journal of Socialist Renewal ( 
https://links.org.au/ ) , Rojas discusses why it is so important that the full 
results of the July 28 presidential election be published, the current state of 
community organising in the country and why we might be witnessing the Nicolas 
Maduro government’s final break with the Bolivarian process of radical change 
initiated by Chávez.

*What are your thoughts on the fact the National Electoral Council (CNE) has 
still not published the final results more than a month after the presidential 
election?*

To us it is crazy. This is the first time in Venezuela’s recent history that, 
38 days after an election, we still do not have verifiable results broken down 
by polling booths. [This interview was completed on September 4 and, at the 
time of publication, no results have been released.] Traditionally, on election 
night or at the very latest the next day, we would go to the CNE webpage and 
look at the results, booth by booth, to verify what had occurred in our 
community and compare the results with the previous election. We did this 
because we believe that participation and legitimacy is key and fundamental to 
any democracy, and should not only be left to political parties but involve the 
community. That was our tradition: meetings to evaluate, compare results 
between polling centres and draw up a balance sheet. These results are basic 
ingredients for a vibrant and active democracy, which is the democracy we 
defend. As important as the total results are, they do not tell you everything 
you need to know about an election.

Publishing the results is not just a legal obligation, it is a basic principle 
of the Bolivarian Revolution. In an editorial ( 
https://tatuytv.org/editorial-chavismo-defender-la-verdad-reconstruir-el-camino/
 ) that we published as Tatuy TV ( https://tatuytv.org/ ) , we said that [the 
results] have always been our instrument of struggle and defence in the 
community, including in those places where [the Chavista movement] did not win, 
because in some working-class areas the vote was sometimes either very close or 
we lost. They allowed us to converse, discuss and reactivate. If we have learnt 
anything from doing community organising it is that communities are broad and 
diverse, and that community assemblies are where we should all come together, 
regardless of political differences. That was a clear part of Chávez’s 
political thinking: not to see diversity and differences within a community as 
the enemy, so that neighbours could live together in peace. Deconstructing 
differences was only needed when they became obstacles for community 
development. That is why publishing the results is an obligation to society, 
because it is a means to help unblock the current political situation, not only 
from above but from below. Used this way, they can be an instrument for 
rebuilding the social-political fabric of our country.

We must also never forget that we are not in a normal situation. Our election 
was held in circumstances that do not exist in any other country. It has to be 
said: Venezuela is a country under permanent assault from the US empire. We are 
the victims of illegal mechanisms [such as sanctions] that impact on our 
country’s income. There is no doubt that we face permanent attacks against the 
country’s different institutions. Also, in various communities there were 
attacks on Chavista community leaders in the days after the elections. Sadly, 
two grassroots activists were assassinated. Unfortunately, this is not new; 
similar events have occurred during previous moments of political tensions.

But I am one of those who believes that none of this is an excuse to not 
publish detailed election results. In part because it could unblock current 
political tensions, as it would allow everyone to assume their responsibility 
amid the complex moment the country is passing through. That is essential. That 
is why, for me, there is no reason to have still not published the results. 
There is no technical reason not to have done this after so many days. A PDF 
uploaded anywhere could be a start. When the CNE had problems with its website 
in other elections, it set up a mirror site and published information there. 
There is simply no technical explanation for why we do not have this 
information.

Continue read at 
https://links.org.au/end-venezuelas-bolivarian-process-interview-community-activist-gerardo-rojas


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