On Mon, Nov 18, 2024 at 02:20 PM, Charles Keener wrote:

> 
> The first is that in the 1920s, there was a strong leftist movement
> represented by Communists and social democrats. Yes, they quarrelled and
> obstructed each other. But they were strong and popular. Today, no such
> movement exists.

As I recall, Louis Proyect used to argue that fascism was not really possible 
in our time because of the absence of a strong leftist movment as had been the 
case in the 1920s and 1930s when the twentieth century fascist movements rose 
to power. Louis basically repeated Trotsky's argument that fascism was a 
backlash against the workers movement. But that is precisely what we don't have 
today, and yet we still have movements that look a lot like the fascist 
movements of the last century. How is that to be explained?

To be sure, today's far-right movements differ from those of the last century 
in certain important respects. The fascist movements of the last century were 
not necessarily opposed to the welfare state as such. Germany, after all, had a 
welfare state since the days of Bismarck. The Nazis did not seek to overturn it 
but instead insisted that social benefits were to go to  certain favored 
groups, namely to "Aryans" who were not political dissidents and who were 
willing to toe the line under National Socialism. Trumpism, on the other hand, 
is supported by currents that are quite hostile towards the welfare state. We 
may well see under the incoming Trump Administration renewed efforts at 
privatizing Medicare and social security. To be sure this isn't necessarily 
true for all of today's right-right movements. In eastern Europe, in Hungary, 
Orban gained much traction by promising to preserve the social safety net that 
had been originally created under the Communist regime, which was under threat 
by neoliberalism. The fact that the center-left parties, including the 
ex-Communists, had largely bought into neoliberalism, alienated the working 
class and created a vacuum that could be filled by the far-right.


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