> On Nov 21, 2024, at 3:59 PM, Michael Meeropol via groups.io 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> The reason the anti-war movement ultimately won was GIs started refusing to 
> fight --

I think that the reason GIs ultimately started refusing to fight was an outcome 
of the antiwar movement.  The more enlightened antiwar groups reached out to 
GIs by establishing coffee houses in base towns and organizing lawyers to 
support soldiers against disciplinary actions for their activism.  

That was in contrast to other groups that verbally attacked and denounced GIs 
during: "At an international conference in Cuba in the fall of 1968, [George] 
Murray affirmed Panther support for the North Vietnamese, telling the crowd 
that every American soldier killed in Vietnam was one fewer they had to deal 
with at home.
Harris, Malcolm. Palo Alto: A History of California, Capitalism, and the World 
(pp. 433-434). Little, Brown and Company. "

I couldn't find the reference that Harris gives so I asked ChatGPT: 'However, 
there is no verifiable record of Murray explicitly stating that every U.S. 
soldier killed in Vietnam was “one less to deal with in the United States.” 
Such a statement would have been highly controversial and is not documented in 
credible sources.'  Not to smear the Panthers or their former Minister of 
Education, but I remember the sentiment of other groups that blamed the war on 
the victims who were fighting it.

Mark



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