> On Jan 11, 2025, at 8:38 PM, duen filan via groups.io 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> The mutiny had à long  list of demands it wanted to negotiate. How long might 
> that have taken? On March 16, 10,000 red guards died.  Their blood turned the 
> ice covered bay red. 
> 
> Kronstadt, a fortified island in the middle of the bay,  protected Petrograd 
> from invasion by sea. If the defenders of Petrogrtad had waited for 
> negotiations  to conclude,  it would have been  past spring  break-up, making 
> the bay navigatable to the battleships of the imperialist powers.   A few 
> kegs of Jamaican rum would have bought the mutineers' loyalty  and their guns 
> would have been turned on the city.
> 
> There was no time to negotiate; the revolution was in danger.  Defence of the 
> city was crucial, and the Bolsheviks acted accordingly.

So where did you get these impressions about Kronstadt, Duane? Is the slander 
about buying off the rebels with rum a personal invention or are you not 
quoting someone else who previously wrote it down? The Kronstadters risked 
their lives for socialist and democratic principles, but you really think that 
all they wanted to do was get drunk? 

And regarding the "long list of demands," which of them were not something that 
any of us would expect a workers' government to support?

Mark



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