> On Feb 24, 2025, at 18:07, modulus via groups.io 
> <modulus=spiritofcontradiction...@groups.io> wrote:
> 
> The relevant part is at the end, where Putin states that when a people 
> becomes conscious of its separateness that must be respected. That's 
> self-determination, no?

I didn't know it was from Putin and need the context. Was Putin referring to 
the Russian annexation of the eastern Ukrainian provinces. I cannot tell. But 
Putin has been disputing Lenin for some time now.

Q: where did putin dispute Vladimir Lenin's thesis on The Right of Nations to 
Self Determination?

chatGPT:
Vladimir Putin has publicly disputed Vladimir Lenin’s thesis on “The Right of 
Nations to Self-Determination” in several key instances:

1. February 21, 2022 – Address Concerning the Events in Ukraine: In this 
speech, Putin criticized Lenin’s policies, stating that modern Ukraine was 
created by Bolshevik, Communist Russia, and that Lenin’s ideas on a 
confederative state and the right of nations to self-determination were akin to 
a “time bomb” that eventually led to the collapse of the Soviet Union. 

2. July 12, 2021 – Article “On the Historical Unity of Russians and 
Ukrainians”: Putin authored an essay where he argued that Russians and 
Ukrainians are “one people” and criticized Lenin’s approach to national 
self-determination, suggesting it planted the seeds for separatism and the 
eventual dissolution of the USSR.  

These instances reflect Putin’s perspective that Lenin’s policies on national 
self-determination were detrimental to the territorial integrity and unity of 
Russia.

References:
https://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/vladimirputindonbassandukraine.htm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Historical_Unity_of_Russians_and_Ukrainians

chatGPT gave references to a Kremlin web site that would not load on my computer

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