[Edited Message Follows] On Tue, Nov 25, 2025 at 12:08 PM, Marv Gandall wrote:
> > I’m only reiterating that an essential precondition for socialism is the > collapse of the capitalist system of production and distribution which > forces the masses to take matters into their own hands, and that it's not > possible to predict when these conditions might appear. Which doesn't mean abstention from the Mamdani movement. It will likely have to struggle to implement its relatively modest housing, food, daycare, transportation and policing measures, and the masses primarily learn through struggle, further informed by socialist activists in their midst. It doesn't mean "tailing" the movement either. I think the proposals for medicare and public banking, for example, already have wide currency within this milieu and would be well received. But it's telling that the Mamdani leadership, bolder than most, still believes it needs bourgeois support for its reforms and on that basis refused to challenge Jeffries and endorsed him ahead of a challenger to his left - - unnecessarily timid, in my view, but something to take into account. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#39489): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/39489 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/116410536/21656 -=-=- POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. #4 Do not exceed five posts a day. -=-=- Group Owner: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/marxmail/leave/13617172/21656/1316126222/xyzzy [[email protected]] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
