There are various possibilities to win - starting from weakening Israel
due to mass global solidarity movement and decline of U.S. support, the
weakening of the Israeli's Abraham alliance (see the rift between Saudi
Arabia and the UAE), wars between Israel and Arab/Muslim states to
another wave of Arab Revolution. All this will probably not happen in
the near future.
However, the whole discussion is not about long-term perspectives for
the liberation but about who fights against oppression and who
capitulates without fighting. The Palestinian resistance has choosen the
first option, the Chavista regime the second. Even if you disagree with
the strategy of Hamas and others, you can not deny that they choose the
path of fighting instead of capitulating and living in wealth as
servants of U.S. imperialism.
Am 13.02.2026 um 20:17 schrieb Mark Baugher:
On Feb 13, 2026, at 09:09, RKOB via groups.io
<[email protected]> wrote:
According to this logic the Algerians, the Vietnamese, the Chinese
and many other oppressed peoples could have avoided millions of death
if they would have followed the "wise" strategy of capitulation and
bowing to the imperialist invaders!
When Bush invaded Iraq in 2003, people like Wolfowitz, Perle, Krystol,
Rice and others said that the reconstruction of Iraq would be just
like the reconstruction of Nazi Germany. But Germany was a place where
bourgeois democracy had previously existed, it had the experience of
the Weimar Republic, and the people had previously established civil
rights after more than a century of popular and working-class
struggles. Serious analysis would start with the differences between
those very different places. We should look for underlying historical
forces and not rely on superficial comparisons.
How can we tell the difference between an adventure and a
revolutionary uprising? I would say that the masses of people
determine that, and organizations hopefully exist that can lead them
when they do. And hopefully the masses have organizations under their
control, such as independent trade unions. It has happened that a
guerrilla action or military assault triggers a revolutionary
uprising. That is good luck. Our strategies can benefit from luck but
shouldn't assume it.
I didn't see a mass uprising of Palestinians before, during or after
the Al-Aqsa Flood. And I personally still cannot envision what
Palestinian victory would look like after 10/7. Can you?
Mark
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