On Mon, Mar 23, 2026 at 03:09 PM, Joseph Green wrote:

> 
> looking at economic issues through "the prism" of such a wrong and
> inconsistent view of value can“t help but damage their [Roberts and
> Carchedi] analysis of twenty-first century capitalism.

You boxed yourself in: their understanding of value is wrong, so their analysis 
must be wrong. Didn't see where you engaged their analysis.

Roberts' analysis is that the stagnation of capitalism today is caused by a 
long term fall in the rate of profit. (There is lots of room to debate whether 
the data support that.) He can't explain why the rate fell long term. Sometimes 
he plays with Kondratiev cycles; it goes nowhere. Marx identified the fall in 
the rate of profit as the cause of prosperity falling or crashing into 
depression, and depression clearing the way for prosperity. These cycles have 
operated in industrial capitalism for more than 200 years. This mechanism 
cannot be the explanation of the end-phase of capitalism, which has indeed 
arrived ( http://www.hollowcolossus.com ).


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