> On Jul 27, 2026, at 01:12, Donal Deroiste via groups.io 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> You chaps are drifting into the psychology/psychopathy area now I fear?

Some of us believe that a centralized church of 1.3 billion people is a 
material force. So we should be able to study and discuss it without people 
assuming that we believe any of its tenets or defend its past history. That's 
been a problem on this list with one subscriber filing a formal complaint 
against me for condoning pedophilia. It was dramatic. Others want to dole out 
lectures on the Catholic Church and chattel slavery.  

I am sure an idealist can find all sorts of institutions and beliefs that are 
phenotypical points of similarity. The Roman Catholic church is only "just 
like" the Stalin-led USSR of a certain period if you limit yourself to what 
things look like rather than what things are.

Mark

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