Anthony - you do not have all the information about Morris Dees and his relationship with the ADL. you are correct that the ADL was the main instrument of Israel and but also the USA on spying on the left and it was widespread. The ADL and the SPLC turned over and cooperated with both governments and through Morris Dees (who earned millions of dollars thus corrupt for that and his double operation for aiding Israel. The SPLC was founded after the official years of the Civil Rights Movement (1954-1968 MLK death). As I stated the Trump prosecution should be opposed but not because these cooperating non-profits are not working both sides of the line. Liberals identify with the state they view privileges from and thus patriotic and loyal too. The ADL is its own special conscious agents for that zionist ideology and state that motivates them.
On Thu, Aug 13, 2026 at 10:52 PM Anthony Teso via groups.io <anthony.p.teso= [email protected]> wrote: > > - The major documented scandal involving systematic surveillance of > leftists, Arab-American activists, anti-apartheid organizers, and critics > of Israel was the *Anti-Defamation League (ADL) scandal of the early > 1990s*, not the SPLC. ADL investigator Roy Bullock monitored thousands > of activists and organizations; seized files included material on groups > ranging from the ACLU and UAW to Mother Jones and ACT UP. Bullock had also > worked with the FBI and maintained relationships with police intelligence > officers. A later lawsuit alleged that ADL dossiers were shared with police > and the Israeli government; the *ADL denied providing information to > Israel*, so I would not state that particular allegation as fact. > - There *is*, however, solid evidence for criticizing the SPLC's > relationship with law enforcement. The SPLC operated paid informants inside > far-right organizations and acknowledged repeatedly passing information > obtained from those informants to the FBI and other law-enforcement > agencies. In fact, this cooperation is now part of the SPLC's *defense*: > it argues that the informant program helped the FBI prevent violence and > prosecute white supremacists. > - The Trump Justice Department's present case is *not simply a > prosecution for supplying information about the right to the FBI*. The > April 2026 indictment alleges that the SPLC deceived donors and banks and > concealed millions of dollars in payments to informants through fictitious > entities. Those are allegations, not proven facts, and the SPLC has pleaded > not guilty. On August 12, former SPLC official Heidi Beirich was separately > charged with wire-fraud conspiracy, false statements, and money-laundering > conspiracy connected to that program; she denies wrongdoing and says the > prosecution is politically motivated. > - Morris Dees's departure is also better described carefully. He was > laid off in 2019 amid allegations of sexual harassment and longstanding > complaints about racial and gender discrimination inside the SPLC, > alongside older criticism of its enormous fundraising operation and > accumulation of reserves. Calling these matters simply “corruption” goes > beyond what was actually established. > > Therefore, the stronger left argument is to condemn Trump's prosecution > and avoid whitewashing the SPLC. A government may selectively prosecute an > organization for political reasons while that organization itself has > engaged in practices the left should criticize. > > The principle I'd emphasize is that *private liberal organizations should > not become auxiliary intelligence agencies for the FBI simply because the > people being surveilled are fascists or reactionaries.* Once political > surveillance, infiltration, and information-sharing with the security state > become legitimate tools against one's enemies, there is no principled > barrier to using the same apparatus against labor organizers, antiwar > activists, Palestine solidarity groups, or socialists. The history of the > FBI makes that danger anything but hypothetical. > > So I'd separate the cases: *cite the ADL when discussing historical > surveillance of the left and Israel critics, and cite the SPLC when > discussing paid infiltration of the far right and cooperation with the FBI.* > That makes the argument considerably harder to knock down. > > And politically: oppose a potentially retaliatory Trump prosecution *without > turning the SPLC into an honorary member of the socialist movement.* The > security state doesn't become our friend because today's dossier happens to > have a fascist's name on it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Tony > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#43005): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/43005 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/120736784/21656 -=-=- POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. #4 Do not exceed five posts a day. -=-=- Group Owner: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/marxmail/leave/13617172/21656/1316126222/xyzzy [[email protected]] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
