On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 11:49:24AM -0400, Darren  Dale wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 12:05:25PM -1000, Eric Firing wrote:
> >> When I go to the enthought web site, the most recent traits release I
> >> see is 1.1, from August 2006.  That doesn't make me optimistic about
> >> traits as an external dependency any time soon.

> > That's because the website is unmaintained. There have been two releases
> > lately. One during scipy, and one mainly bug fix and small improvements,
> > last week.

> > This shows that enthought is really bad at communicating there work,
> > something that I have come to realize, and that is a major prolblem.

> > The software it self is pretty good, it just lacks packaging (I have more
> > and more doubts about eggs), good release plans, and testing with
> > different uses than enthought's.

> During the last Scipy conference, Fernando Perez and (I think) Dave
> Peterson tracked down the source of a performance hit when we use our new
> config package, which uses traits. They determined it was an issue with
> setuptools. Do you know what is enthought's current thinking about using
> setuptools?

Their official thinking is to stick to it, and to improve it. But I have
started release tarball that require setuptools only to build, but not at
run-time. They are being used to package traits, traitsUI and mayavi2 in
Debian. I would be happy to guive more info about that, but I am
currently travelling, and my internet access is very poor.

Beta versions of tarballs are on 
http://code.enthought.com/downloads/source . I will make cleaner tarballs
of the release that was done last week when I get back home. These
tarballscan be used for eg packaging, or integrating the dependency, as
Fernando does in ipython.

Cheers,

Gael


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