On Wednesday 31 October 2007 12:07:12 pm Gael Varoquaux wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 11:49:24AM -0400, Darren  Dale wrote:
> > > On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 12:05:25PM -1000, Eric Firing wrote:
> > >> When I go to the enthought web site, the most recent traits release I
> > >> see is 1.1, from August 2006.  That doesn't make me optimistic about
> > >> traits as an external dependency any time soon.
> > >
> > > That's because the website is unmaintained. There have been two
> > > releases lately. One during scipy, and one mainly bug fix and small
> > > improvements, last week.
> > >
> > > This shows that enthought is really bad at communicating there work,
> > > something that I have come to realize, and that is a major prolblem.
> > >
> > > The software it self is pretty good, it just lacks packaging (I have
> > > more and more doubts about eggs), good release plans, and testing with
> > > different uses than enthought's.
> >
> > During the last Scipy conference, Fernando Perez and (I think) Dave
> > Peterson tracked down the source of a performance hit when we use our new
> > config package, which uses traits. They determined it was an issue with
> > setuptools. Do you know what is enthought's current thinking about using
> > setuptools?
>
> Their official thinking is to stick to it, and to improve it. But I have
> started release tarball that require setuptools only to build, but not at
> run-time. They are being used to package traits, traitsUI and mayavi2 in
> Debian. I would be happy to guive more info about that, but I am
> currently travelling, and my internet access is very poor.
>
> Beta versions of tarballs are on
> http://code.enthought.com/downloads/source . I will make cleaner tarballs
> of the release that was done last week when I get back home. These
> tarballscan be used for eg packaging, or integrating the dependency, as
> Fernando does in ipython.

This is just what we are looking for. Please let me know when the new tarballs 
are available.

Darren

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