On 11/17/2010 03:41 PM, Kynn Jones wrote:
Hi. I am finding that matplotlib does not allow me to decouple certain actions from the GUI as much as I'd like.

For example, I have not been able to do any of the following tasks. Some of these tasks are certainly artificial, but they all succinctly illustrate some of the problems I've been running into when doing more realistic stuff.

1. /without bringing up any GUI window/,
Set the backend to a non-GUI backend, such as agg, pdf, ps, svg or cairo by setting the 'backend' rcParam in matplotlibrc, or doing:

  import matplotlib
  matplotlib.use("Agg") # Must be the first call after importing matplotlib
generate a list of all the filetypes available to a specific matplotlib installation for saving graphics (e.g. .ps, .svg, .pdf, .png, etc.);
From a figure object:

   figure.canvas.get_supported_filetypes()

returns a dictionary of supported file extensions, with mapping to more detailed descriptions of each.

2. switch back-and-forth between sending graphics objects for display to the GUI and sending them for saving to any of the available filetypes (as defined in (1));
Once set to any of the GUI backends, you can use "show()" and "savefig()" interchangeably.

3. (by far the most important one) /without activating any backend/, create a graphics object (I explain what I mean by this below).

To clarify what I mean by (3), the best I can do is to give an example from Mathematica. In Mathematica, a Graphics object does not need to be displayed. It can be defined as a collection of Graphics primitives, without ever displaying it in the GUI. One such definition would be something like

In[1]:= g = Graphics[Line[{{1., 2.}, {2., 3.}, {3., 5.}}]];

This is what I mean in (3) by creating a graphics object without displaying it (in the GUI). From a design perspective, this makes a lot of sense, since a Graphics object, as an idea, is entirely independent of whatever mean one chooses to display it. I want my code to reflect this conceptual independence.

Regarding task (2), to make it more concrete, consider this (also artificial) exercise: write a script that iterates over all filetypes identified in (1); at each iteration, generate some random graphic (e.g. of the sort shown here http://matplotlib.sourceforge.net/examples/api/patch_collection.html), display it on the GUI, and save it as a file of the type corresponding to the iteration.

I would very much appreciate some hints/guidance on how to solve them.

As I noted, by far the most important of these tasks is (3). From looking into the matplotlib source code, it looks to me impossible to do this with standard matplotlib functions. But I am very much of a noob with mpl, so I still hope there's a way.

In the worst case scenario (i.e. (3) can't be done directly using standard mpl functions), then the only solution that I can think of would involve implementing a separate layer of abstract graphics objects, distinct from mpl's. This layer would then delegate to mpl the task of displaying the graphics objects whenever the user requests it. Any suggestions on how best to do this would be much appreciated. In particular, I'd like to know what would be the right place to insert this new graphics object layer into the matplotlib objects stack. I think it would be best to make this connection at a level deeper than the axes object, but I'm not quite sure how to do this.
I think you'll find matplotlib works exactly as you want. I think you might find this part of the documentation useful:

http://matplotlib.sourceforge.net/faq/installing_faq.html#backends

Mike

Thanks in advance!

kj





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