Hi,

> What kind of outputs can these backends create?

The Mac OS X backend can create PDFs, but it simply uses the pdf backend to do 
so, so that wouldn't help you.
The cairo backend can create PDFs by using cairo, so that could be worth trying.

> Could make a simple 
speed comparison between these backends
> and the original script that 
uses the PDF backend.

That would be useful, but keep in mind that there would be three options to 
compare:
1) The current PDF backend;
2) A modified PDF backend;
3) The cairo backend creating PDFs.
Since we don't have 2) yet, we cannot do the full comparison yet, but still it 
would be good to know if it is faster to create PDFs by using cairo compared to 
the current PDF backend.

> I am assuming the changes you mention require 
quite some work
> to make the PDFbackend running faster.

I think it is not so bad, since it's mainly a matter of removing the stuff from 
the PDF backend that is no longer needed. Do we have a maintainer for the PDF 
backend? Because I would rather rely on him/her to make the changes to this 
backend. Otherwise, I can give it a try, but probably I won't be able to find 
the time for it within this month.

Best,
-Michiel.




--- On Sat, 7/7/12, Gökhan Sever <gokhanse...@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Gökhan Sever <gokhanse...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Matplotlib-users] Accelerating PDF saved plots
To: "Michiel de Hoon" <mjldeh...@yahoo.com>
Cc: matplotlib-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Date: Saturday, July 7, 2012, 9:05 PM

Hi,
What kind of outputs can these backends create? I don't use MAC, so my question 
is particularly for the Cairo backend. Could make a simple speed comparison 
between these backends and the original script that uses the PDF backend. I am 
assuming the changes you mention require quite some work to make the PDFbackend 
running faster.

Thanks.

On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Michiel de Hoon <mjldeh...@yahoo.com> wrote:

One reason behind the lengthy plot creation times is likely the PDF backend 
itself. 

Whereas the Mac OS X and the Cairo backends make use of new_gc and gc.restore 
to keep track of the graphics context, the PDF backend uses check_gc and an 
internal stack of graphics contexts. Since nowadays matplotlib has gc.restore 
functionality, I don't think that that is needed any more.


See this revision for when gc.restore was added to matplotlib:

http://matplotlib.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/matplotlib?view=revision&revision=7112


In the same revision the Mac OS X and Cairo backends were modified to make use 
of gc.restore. The PDF backend (and the postscript backend also, btw) can be 
simplified in the same way to speed up these backends, as well as to reduce the 
output file sizes.


Best,
-Michiel.

--- On Thu, 7/5/12, Gökhan
 Sever <gokhanse...@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Gökhan Sever <gokhanse...@gmail.com>

Subject: Re: [Matplotlib-users] Accelerating PDF saved plots
To: "Benjamin Root" <ben.r...@ou.edu>
Cc: matplotlib-users@lists.sourceforge.net

Date: Thursday, July 5, 2012, 2:11 PM




38 * 16 = 608
80 / 608 = 0.1316 seconds per plot

At this point, I doubt you are going to get much more speed-ups.  Glad to be of 
help!

Fabrice -- Good suggestion!  I should have thought of that given how much I use 
that technique in doing animation.





Ben Root



I am including profiled runs for the records --only first 10 lines to keep 
e-mail shorter. Total times are longer comparing to the raw run -p executions. 
I believe profiled run has its own call overhead.


I1 run -p test_speed.py
 171889738 function calls (169109959 primitive calls) in 374.311 seconds
   Ordered by: internal time
   ncalls  tottime  percall  cumtime  percall filename:lineno(function)

  4548012   34.583    0.000   34.583    0.000 {numpy.core.multiarray.array}  
1778401   21.012    0.000   46.227    0.000 path.py:86(__init__)   521816   
17.844    0.000   17.844    0.000 artist.py:74(__init__)

  2947090   15.432    0.000   15.432    0.000 weakref.py:243(__init__)  1778401 
   9.515    0.000    9.515    0.000 {method 'all' of 'numpy.ndarray' 
objects} 13691669    8.654    0.000    8.654    0.000 {getattr}

  1085280    8.550    0.000   17.629    0.000 core.py:2749(_update_from)  
1299904    7.809    0.000   76.060    0.000 markers.py:115(_recache)       38   
 7.378    0.194    7.378    0.194 {gc.collect}

 13564851    6.768    0.000    6.768    0.000 {isinstance}



I1 run -p test_speed3.py 61658708 function calls (60685172 primitive calls) in 
100.934 seconds


   Ordered by: internal time
   ncalls  tottime  percall  cumtime  percall filename:lineno(function)   
937414    6.638    0.000    6.638    0.000 {numpy.core.multiarray.array}

   374227    4.377    0.000    7.500    0.000 path.py:198(iter_segments)  
6974613    3.866    0.000    3.866    0.000 {getattr}   542640    3.809    
0.000    7.900    0.000 core.py:2749(_update_from)

   141361    3.665    0.000    7.136    0.000 
transforms.py:99(invalidate)324688/161136    2.780    0.000   27.747    0.000 
transforms.py:1729(transform)    64448    2.753    0.000   64.921    0.001 
lines.py:463(draw)

   231195    2.748    0.000    7.072    0.000 path.py:86(__init__)684970/679449 
   2.679    0.000    3.888    0.000 backend_pdf.py:128(pdfRepr)    67526    
2.651    0.000    7.522    0.000 backend_pdf.py:1226(pathOperations)




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