(Replying to the list, rather than just George)
On Aug 29, 2013 8:18 AM, "Matt Terry" <matt.te...@gmail.com
<mailto:matt.te...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> I have 15/17 variants working. each pulling binaries/source from
some combination of macports/brew/python.org/pip
<http://python.org/pip> on python 2.6, 2.7, 3.2, and 3.3.
>
> https://travis-ci.org/mrterry/mpl_on_travis_mac/builds/10733852
>
> I need to add python27 and python33 variants that install XQuartz.
Other than that, are there any builds that should be added? For
reference,
>
> python.org <http://python.org> 27 / pip numpy
> python.org <http://python.org> 27 / numpy dmg
> python.org <http://python.org> 33 / pip numpy (no official python3
numpy installer)
> (all built with static versions of libpng/freetype)
>
> system python + brew dependencies
> system python + brew dependencies*
>
> brew python27
> brew python27*
>
> brew python33
> brew python33*
>
> macports py26
> macports py27
> macports py32
> macports py33
> macports py26*
> macports py27*
> macports py32*
> macports py33*
>
> * = virtual envs. python & c dependencies installed from package
manager; macports, numpy from macports. --with-site-packages
>
>
> I'm having a strange installation issue involving dateutil on python
3.3 (only). It is a bytes vs unicode (fight!) that manifests on
installation. I can't reproduce the issue on my machine, but it may
have something to do with dateutil v2.1. Anyone seen something like
this? installing dateutil via macports cleans up the issue (it
installs 2.0, i think).
>
> -matt
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 4:47 AM, George Nurser <gnur...@gmail.com
<mailto:gnur...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> It might be useful to see how macports does it -- their builds have
always worked for me.
>>
>> George Nurser.
>>
>>
>> On 23 August 2013 18:53, Chris Barker - NOAA Federal
<chris.bar...@noaa.gov <mailto:chris.bar...@noaa.gov>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 8:14 AM, Matt Terry <matt.te...@gmail.com
<mailto:matt.te...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> > I'm banging away at installing MPL on top of python.org
<http://python.org>'s python.
>>>
>>> This is why binary installers are good idea!
>>>
>>> > the libfreetype/freetype issue.
>>>
>>> yeah, that's kind of ugly....and where is doesn't "just work" for
me...
>>>
>>> > 1) install libpng[1] and freetype[2] from source
>>>
>>> libpng and freetype are different, though install from source may be
>>> the way to go:
>>>
>>> libpng is there, but is not properly installed, I'm not sure it's got
>>> the header for the same version as the lib, and libpng-config is
>>> either not there or not for the right version or somethign ugly. It
>>> look, form messages at build time, that someone has hacked some code
>>> into the MPL build that figures all that out, but for other stuff I'm
>>> doing, I just punt and build libpng -- that's pretty straighforward,
>>> at least. But teh solution in the MPL code now seems to work.
>>>
>>> > 2) install XQuartz[3] and twiddle /opt/X11, /usr/X11 (per Russell's
>>> > directions[4]) so MPL finds XQuartz's libpng/freetype
>>>
>>> I _think_ that OS-X now ships with X11, which has freetype (though
>>> installed weirdly once again...) we certainly should NOT expect people
>>> to install anything big to build MPL, and binaries should not depend
>>> on anything not shipped by Apple by default.
>>>
>>> According to Russell, you do need to install something, so I think
that's out.
>>>
>>> > 4) create the MPL binary installer and use that
>>>
>>> That's what most people should do -- but one of us needs to build it.
>>>
>>> > Option 1 seems simple-est, but installing freetype requires more
than
>>> > ./configure && make && sudo make install.
>>>
>>> darn. But hopefully we can figure it out.
>>>
>>> > Option 4: This would require some input from whoever (Gohlke?,
Owen?) makes
>>> > the binary installers.
>>>
>>> I think Russell has been doing it for MPL lately.
>>>
>>> My thoughts:
>>>
>>> We want to support two user-bases:
>>>
>>> 1) folks that don't mind a little command line work, and probably need
>>> other scientific libs, etc anyway, an want an MPL that runs on their
>>> machine:
>>> - these folks should use homebrew or macports to build the
>>> dependencies (or even hand-compile them). Ideally we have setup.py
>>> that will find those libs, and test to see that the builds work once
>>> in a while.
>>>
>>> 2) folks that "just want to use it" and/or want a binary they can
>>> re-distribute via py2app, etc.
>>> - for these folks, we need to provide binaries. These binaries
should:
>>> 1) Match the python.org <http://python.org> python builds.
(probably only the Intel ones now...)
>>> 2) statically link the non-sytem libs
>>>
>>> This has been done for a while, off and on, most recently by
Russell, AFAIK.
>>>
>>> But this is not a problem unique to MPL. All sorts of python packages
>>> need this, and only some of the package maintainers do it (well).
>>> Also, a bunch of packages require the same dependencies (i.e. PIL and
>>> MPL both need png and freetype)
>>>
>>> So, rather than re-inventing the wheel over and over again, It would
>>> be great to have a central repository where we can develop build
>>> scripts, etc that share an infrustructure for building these binaries.
>>>
>>> I've started one:
>>>
>>> https://github.com/MacPython/mac-builds
>>>
>>> there is not much there, only a couple things I'm working on at the
>>> moment (netCDF4, which is of interest to scipy folks, and py_gd, which
>>> is my own simple drawing lib, that no one else uses (yet?)
>>>
>>> If anyone wants to join the project let me know -- if I know you from
>>> your work with this community, I'll gladly add you.
>>>
>>> I'm using the gattai build system:
>>> (https://sourceforge.net/projects/gattai/). I decided to do that, as I
>>> was sick of re-writing essentially the same build scripts, and I kept
>>> adding features to mine that would have resulted in re-implementing
>>> gattai anyway. I've been hacking at gattai, and its author is quite
>>> open to moving it forward.
>>>
>>> That being said, there is no reason that we need to use the same build
>>> system -- we could easily have custom build scripts for a project, and
>>> still have it share the dependencies.
>>>
>>> I was planning on getting it all further along before announcing the
>>> project and looking for help, but since is came up...
>>>
>>> -Chris
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Christopher Barker, Ph.D.
>>> Oceanographer
>>>
>>> Emergency Response Division
>>> NOAA/NOS/OR&R (206) 526-6959 voice
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>>>
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