I have expressed similar misgivings about MySQL with our team here at
Berkeley. First of all they have moved to an open core model and this
is already starting to hurt users. Features that were planned for
release have been rolled into a for pay only structure.
http://monty-says.blogspot.com/2011/09/oracle-adding-close-source-extensions.html
Second, Oracle has a pretty bad track record in this area. Look at the
whole OpenOffice.org debacle. Granted Oracle finally did the right
thing, but only because the project was forked and LibreOffice started
to gain lots of traction. This whole java situation is really just more
of the same.
I really like PostgreSQL. Particularly because it is community owned.
Mysql has always been owned by a single entity and as such it is a lot
more susceptible to this sort of thing.
Furthermore PostgreSQL tends to be a lot more feature rich as well.
On 12/22/11 2:17 AM, Rubén Pérez wrote:
Hi,
I'm not a DB expert, but I guess that the most straightforward
substitute for MySQL is MariaDB. Am I right?
Regards
2011/12/21 Olli Salo <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
Hi folks,
the Java related news are indeed quite alarming, so the OpenJDK java
sounds very good to me (even though I don't regard myself as a
developer). Now, as we know that also mysql is nowadays owned by
Oracle then I ask you guys: am I the only one scared of the time
when there is a huge price tag on mysql? Oracle is already rolling
out the Enterprise edition of mysql so I have to ask is the open
source mysql developing any further? When I read what mysql
co-founder Michael Monty Widenius and the rest write, then the
answer is clear: the (former?) mysql key developers are not very
happy about the situation:
http://monty-says.blogspot.__com/2009/12/oracle-gives-only-__empty-promises-for.html
<http://monty-says.blogspot.com/2009/12/oracle-gives-only-empty-promises-for.html>
Ok, like said I'm not a programmer nor a db specialist so I only ask
this in order to hear what you db gurus say. Also, my intention is
not to start a db war between any particular db's. I just wanted to
drop you a line to ask whether it is indeed wise to follow the mysql
path with OPENcast? There are other db's which seem way more open to
me (postgres for one).
Yours,
Olli S
On 19.12.2011 23:57, Greg Logan wrote:
Hi Hank,
Thanks for bringing this up on list.
It's unfortunate that Oracle has taken this position, but
fortunately
Matterhorn appears to be relatively unscathed. Adam McKenzie
and I have
spent the day testing 1.3 and it seems that OpenJDK 6 works without
modification. There will be some minor work needed for OpenJDK 7
centered mainly around dependencies for 3rd party libraries
(log4j pax).
I can make no guarantees for 1.2 or earlier, those have not
been tested
yet.
All in all, it seems like some minor work and updating our
documentation
should get us through this in one piece!
G
On 11-12-18 03:15 PM, Hank Magnuski wrote:
*Great news ... watch your Matterhorn installation go down
the drain in
the middle of the night when you're not looking.*
*From:
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/__2011/12/java-to-be-removed-__from-ubuntu-uninstalled-from-__user-machines/*
<http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/java-to-be-removed-from-ubuntu-uninstalled-from-user-machines/*>
**
*
*
*Oracle’s**/ Sun Java JDK/ packages are to be removed from
the Ubuntu
partner repositories and disabled on users systems.*
Oracle, in retiring the ‘Operating System Distributor
License for Java’,
means Canonical no longer have permission to distribute the
package.
The change will affect Ubuntu 10.04 LTs, Ubuntu 10.10 and
11.04 users only.
Users who have the /‘sun-java-6′/ package installed on their
system will
see it removed via a future software update – the exact date
of which is
‘TBD’.
Anyone requiring the software will need to switch to open-source
alternatives (many of which are readily available in the
Ubuntu Software
Centre) or by manually installing the Java packages
available through
the Oracle web site.
OpenJDK – Succeeding Java
OpenJDK – which until now has been the open-source
alternatives to Java
– will now become *the official implementation of Java*. Oracle
themselves will be using OpenJDK as the basis for their own
future
releases<http://blogs.oracle.__com/henrik/entry/moving_to___openjdk_as_the
<http://blogs.oracle.com/henrik/entry/moving_to_openjdk_as_the>>.
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