On 13-02-05 05:25 PM, Schulte Olaf A. wrote:
> Hello
> 
> http://doodle.com/rz2fh32fizuq55ca tells me we could meet
> 
> Wednesday, February 20th at the usual time.
> 
> I wonder, however, whether this meeting makes sense before the dawn of 1.4, 
> with the annotation services implemented by UOS. Could those interested in 
> the meeting please come forward as to the further discussion? 

I doubt we will have the release out by then, but I don't see any harm
in meeting.  I'm more of an observer though, so those with more stake in
the process should speak up.

G

> Regards
> 
> Olaf A. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: [email protected] [mailto:community-
>> [email protected]] Im Auftrag von Schulte Olaf A.
>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 16. Januar 2013 00:23
>> An: 'Matterhorn Users'; Opencast Matterhorn; Opencast Community
>> Cc: 'Karen Dolan'
>> Betreff: Re: [Opencast] Annotation Service(s) in/for Matterhorn
>>
>> Hello
>>
>> I'm sorry I'm late with an update regarding the various efforts around the 
>> annotation
>> service, but given the upcoming San Diego meeting and the annotation feature 
>> we
>> should be able to discover in 1.4, I propose to meet in February to update 
>> each
>> other. Here are some dates (8am PST / 5pm CET):
>>
>> http://doodle.com/rz2fh32fizuq55ca.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Olaf A.
>>
>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>> Von: Schulte Olaf A.
>>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 20. November 2012 13:58
>>> An: 'Matterhorn Users'; Opencast Matterhorn; Opencast Community
>>> Cc: 'Matjaz Rihtar <[email protected]> ([email protected])';
>>> '[email protected]'
>>> Betreff: Annotation Service(s) in/for Matterhorn
>>>
>>> A short summary of yesterday's meeting, which was targeted at updating
>>> various parties about the work underway in the domain of video
>> annotations/comments.
>>>
>>> UOS (Rüdiger, Martin)
>>> Working on an annotation feature in 1.4 with the standard annotation
>>> end point; public annotations only. Can be activated per series.
>>> - comments on timeline
>>> - comments in list.
>>> - annotation on slides, activated by double-clicking
>>> - annotation stored annotation end point (value field)
>>> - not integrated with search (yet), but searching annotations is
>>> possible (depending on performance)
>>> - Looking into export option to comply with
>>> http://www.w3.org/community/openannotation/
>>>
>>> Greg
>>> Thesis work on video editor will use existing annotation feature from
>>> UOS. Adds private features.
>>>
>>> ETH/Entwine
>>> Working on an annotation feature for textual and (mainly) structured 
>>> annotation:
>>> Instructors provide (groups of) labels so students use these to
>>> structure the video according to the specifications given; or students
>>> create their own set of labels according to what they see in the
>>> video. Includes editors for labels, Likert-scales for variables,
>>> overall more "scientific" with an export option for annotation values to be
>> analysed statistically. Cf. http://entwinemedia.github.com/annotations/.
>>> Not coupled with Matterhorn, but with any video player (player
>>> adapters exist for
>>> HTML5 and Flash;
>>> https://github.com/entwinemedia/annotations/wiki/Player-
>>> adapter-API).
>>>
>>> Koemei
>>> Tobias/Xavier, could you possibly update us with respect to the work
>>> for/by Koemei?
>>>
>>> Carlos (UPV) is looking for an annotation feature to enrich their
>>> HTML5 video player "Paella"
>>> Matjaz (JSI) is looking for a performing infrastructure to support
>>> transcripts, translations plus crowdsourced translations (kind of
>>> annotation/comment) for http://translectures.eu/.
>>>
>>> Recording:
>>> http://m5.blindsidenetworks.com/playback/slides/playback.html?meetingI
>>> d=f14a07 f85101b90354d6fc2c800ff6d186e0a8d7-1353340610662.
>>>
>>> Questions/issues
>>> - searchability of annotations in conjunction with / complimentary to
>>> / separate from existing (slide) search
>>> - role of MPEG-7
>>> - how to integrate search results to UI
>>> - other parties interested in this service
>>>
>>> Next meeting in December.
>>>
>>> O
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>> Von: Schulte Olaf A.
>>>> Gesendet: Sonntag, 18. November 2012 21:30
>>>> An: Matterhorn Users
>>>> Cc: 'Matjaz Rihtar <[email protected]> ([email protected])';
>>>> '[email protected]'
>>>> Betreff: AW: [Matterhorn-users] About the Annotation Service
>>>>
>>>> Greg reminded me to remind you we're meeting tomorrow/today
>>>>
>>>> Monday, November 19th - usual time (8am to 5pm) - in BBB room no. 1
>>>>
>>>> to discuss and coordinate various approaches to annotations. Maybe
>>>> those who have been / are working in this domain could shortly
>>>> report on where they are plus a screenshot / URL for people to
>>>> figure out what kind of
>>> annotation where talking.
>>>>
>>>> O
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>>> Von: Schulte Olaf A.
>>>>> Gesendet: Freitag, 9. November 2012 11:44
>>>>> An: 'Matterhorn Users'
>>>>> Cc: 'Matjaz Rihtar <[email protected]> ([email protected])';
>>>>> '[email protected]'
>>>>> Betreff: AW: [Matterhorn-users] About the Annotation Service
>>>>>
>>>>> So we'll meet Monday, November 19th - usual time (8am to 5pm) - in
>>>>> BBB room
>>>> no.
>>>>> 1.
>>>>>
>>>>> O
>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>>>> Von: Schulte Olaf A.
>>>>>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. November 2012 17:34
>>>>>> An: Matterhorn Users
>>>>>> Betreff: AW: [Matterhorn-users] About the Annotation Service
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Seems to be all I'm doing these days...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://doodle.com/x2xdnznkt4hmvr9m.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> O
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>>>>> Von: [email protected]
>>>>>>> [mailto:matterhorn-users- [email protected]] Im Auftrag
>>>>>>> von Ruediger Rolf
>>>>>>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. November 2012 17:15
>>>>>>> An: Matterhorn Users
>>>>>>> Betreff: Re: [Matterhorn-users] About the Annotation Service
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Unfortunatly I don't have time on November 14th. Thursday the
>>>>>>> 15th in that week would work for me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rüdiger
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am 08.11.2012 11:13, schrieb Carlos Turro Ribalta:
>>>>>>>> I agree.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Wednesday, November 14th is OK for me
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> C.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Mensaje original-----
>>>>>>>> De: [email protected]
>>>>>>>> [mailto:matterhorn-users-
>>>>>>> [email protected]] En nombre de Schulte Olaf A.
>>>>>>>> Enviado el: jueves, 08 de noviembre de 2012 10:11
>>>>>>>> Para: Matterhorn Users
>>>>>>>> Asunto: Re: [Matterhorn-users] About the Annotation Service
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Allow me to chime in. As announced earlier [1], Entwine is
>>>>>>>> working on a service for
>>>>>>> structured annotations for ETH Zurich and other Swiss universities.
>>>>>>> Together with earlier (and current?) work from Osnabruck, Greg's
>>>>>>> thesis work and Carlos' latest announcement, this makes it an
>>>>>>> issue we should probably coordinate more formally to avoid
>>>>>>> overlaps and problems. How about a meeting next week, Wednesday,
>>>>>>> November 14th (same time as
>>>>>> developers' meeting)?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> O
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>> http://opencast.3480289.n2.nabble.com/Opencast-Question-re-quot
>>>>>>>> -L
>>>>>>>> ea
>>>>>>>> r
>>>>>>>> n
>>>>>>>> i
>>>>>>>> ng-Analytics-amp-Matterhorn-quot-td7284391.html#a7292690
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>>>>>>> Von: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>> [mailto:matterhorn-users- [email protected]] Im
>>>>>>>>> Auftrag von Carlos Turro Ribalta
>>>>>>>>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. November 2012 09:40
>>>>>>>>> An: Matterhorn Users
>>>>>>>>> Betreff: Re: [Matterhorn-users] About the Annotation Service
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks Greg, I'm going to look at your code
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Carlos
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Mensaje original-----
>>>>>>>>> De: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>> [mailto:matterhorn-users- [email protected]] En
>>>>>>>>> nombre de Greg Logan Enviado el: miércoles,
>>>>>>>>> 07 de noviembre de 2012 23:45
>>>>>>>>> Para: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>> Asunto: Re: [Matterhorn-users] About the Annotation Service
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 12-11-07 12:30 PM, Carlos Turro Ribalta wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> As most of you know, UP Valencia has developed the HTML5
>>>>>>>>>> Paella Player for
>>>>>>>>> Opencast Matterhorn [1]. We have just finished up with the
>>>>>>>>> bulk of having everything OK for this semester recordings and
>>>>>>>>> we are going to put some effort in adding features to Paella.
>>>>>>>>>> Our users have asked us to put the annotation service in Paella.
>>>>>>>>>> Our idea is just
>>>>>>>>> adding the controls to create and read annotations from the
>>>>>>>>> Matterhorn 1.4
>>>>>>> Service.
>>>>>>>>> I think that some of you are working on that feature for the
>>>>>>>>> Engage Player, and I don't want to break anything, so I am
>>>>>>>>> writing this mail to see if there is anything I have to know
>>>>>>>>> before going
>>> on.
>>>>>>>>>> One issue that I have found is that there are two very
>>>>>>>>>> different use cases for
>>>>>>>>> annotations, public annotations in which students create
>>>>>>>>> annotations, the teacher can validate/delete it and everybody
>>>>>>>>> can see all annotations from all students and teachers, and
>>>>>>>>> private annotations, in which a user can only see his
>>>>>>>>> annotations. As far as I know today only private annotations
>>>>>>>>> are supported, so we should write some code for public
>>>>>>>>> annotations or maybe it should be better to have two different
>>>>>>> services, to have both features.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I believe it's actually the opposite.  While the annotation
>>>>>>>>> components are mainly the work of the team from Osnabruck, my
>>>>>>>>> thesis project needed private annotation features so that
>>>>>>>>> students could choose to make an annotation visible only to
>> themselves.
>>>>>>>>> The annotation service currently has them all public by
>>>>>>>>> default, so I added that as
>>>>>>> part of my project.
>>>>>>>>> I haven't quite sent that code back to Osnabruck yet for
>>>>>>>>> inclusion in their work, but it's on my todo list :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My thesis project is up in the MH-8060 branch on the
>>>>>>>>> Matterhorn SVN server if you want to take a look and see how I
>>>>>>>>> implemented the private
>>>>>>> annotation code.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> G
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Comments will be very welcomed
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Carlos Turro
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Head of Media Services
>>>>>>>>>> Universitat Politècnica de Valencia
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> [1] http://paellaengage.webs.upv.es
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