I think we have made at least one decision already in that the embed player 
combines VGA and audio, skipping video (at least I thought so, but when I 
checked embed with dual stream, I found it broken altogether...) - and suggest 
making this the default for now. I don't know what our RSS would provide as 
media, but would assume it made sense there as well.

O

> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: [email protected] [mailto:matterhorn-
> [email protected]] Im Auftrag von Adam Hochman
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 17. März 2011 03:24
> An: Opencast Matterhorn
> Betreff: Re: [Opencast Matterhorn] multifile upload #proposal
> 
> We discussed in the PO meeting today that for 1.2, we'll only focus on the 
> needs
> of the Matterhorn Media Module.  Accounting for the different video 
> composition
> strategies of distribution channels is both relevant and interesting, but it 
> isn't
> something we can do by May.
> 
> On 3/15/11 4:48 PM, Schulte Olaf A. wrote:
> > As usual, I won't go into the technical details, but from my understanding, 
> > we
> have to look at this from the distribution end of things. Unless you want some
> "picture-in-picture" solution (covering part of the relevant information), 
> there will
> always be a distribution channel with just one video which should be "video-
> presentation" (aka slides, presentation) plus audio - chop off the talking 
> head if
> you have one. Those with two videos will have to argue for a selection to be
> possible.
> >
> > O
> >
> >
> >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> >> Von: [email protected] [mailto:matterhorn-
> >> [email protected]] Im Auftrag von Judy Stern
> >> Gesendet: Dienstag, 15. März 2011 18:46
> >> An: Opencast Matterhorn
> >> Betreff: Re: [Opencast Matterhorn] multifile upload #proposal
> >>
> >> This is an excellent question, Olaf. We certainly didn't think
> >> through what was going to happen with those "limited" distribution
> >> channels. (Do we need to provide options for admin to decide which
> >> tracks get published to individual distribution channels? Does
> >> Matterhorn have built in rules?)  It is, of course, a question that
> >> is bigger than multi-file upload. What happens with scheduled
> >> captures, too, which could have multiple audio channels? Chris, Josh, 
> >> Tobias,
> Adam, anybody: has this already been discussed/solved?
> >>
> >> Judy
> >>
> >> On Mar 13, 2011, at 3:05 PM, Schulte Olaf A. wrote:
> >>
> >>> Just to round this off, at ETH we would be happy with the scenarios
> >>> described
> >> for UCB. A question to disclose my lack of knowledge of processing
> >> probably, but if the user was to upload "video-presenter&
> >> video-presentation (either or both could have muxed audio)", would
> >> the system automatically demux audio from the video-presenter in
> >> order for it to be muxed with the video-presentation sans audio in
> >> distribution channels where this was necessary? Not sure whether this was 
> >> part
> of the caveat you formulated, Judy.
> >>> O
> >>>
> >>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> >>>> Von: [email protected] [mailto:matterhorn-
> >>>> [email protected]] Im Auftrag von Christopher Brooks
> >>>> Gesendet: Freitag, 11. März 2011 23:02
> >>>> An: Opencast Matterhorn
> >>>> Betreff: Re: [Opencast Matterhorn] multifile upload #proposal
> >>>>
> >>>> I could live without it.
> >>>>
> >>>> (would write scripting to put it in).
> >>>>
> >>>> But pretty critical for a 1.3 I think, to do (ideally), n-way
> >>>> upload of video of different types (any number of videos would be 
> >>>> perfect).
> >>>>
> >>>> Chris
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 13:59:51 -0800
> >>>> Judy Stern<[email protected]>  wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Thanks, guys. Not surprising; we've talked about this set-up a
> >>>>> bunch in the past. Question is "how important?". Current default
> >>>>> workflow can't handle this scenario, but maybe we should revisit
> >>>>> in upcoming team or PO meeting, if you consider it critical for
> >>>>> 1.2. Adam, can you add to agenda?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Judy
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Mar 11, 2011, at 9:11 AM, Bruce Sandhorst wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> We have several rooms like that.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Bruce
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Mar 11, 2011, at 10:31 AM, Christopher Brooks wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Judy,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> We have a room with two video-presentations, no video-presenter
> >>>>>>> (that we use), and one audio.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Chris
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 15:39:25 -0800 Judy
> >>>>>>> Stern<[email protected]>  wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Adam and I came up with a simple solution for dealing with
> >>>>>>>> mutlifile upload in this iteration. To do this we have scoped
> >>>>>>>> it to handle only the scenarios that we believe will be most common:
> >>>>>>>> 1) video-presenter&  video-presentation (either or both could
> >>>>>>>> have muxed audio) 2) single video and audio file 3) video
> >>>>>>>> (video-presenter), audio (audio-presenter), screen
> >>>>>>>> (video-presentation), i.e. what we're currently expecting from
> >>>>>>>> capture agent. In all cases, the assumption will be that the
> >>>>>>>> files are already synched; in this iteration (and likely in
> >>>>>>>> 1.2) we will provide no synching tools.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> If we are missing scenarios that you anticipate, please let us
> >>>>>>>> know asap.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> A sketch is here:
> >>>>>>>> http://opencast.jira.com/wiki/display/MH/Multistream+ingest+for
> >>>>>>>> +MH-
> >>>> 2680+March2011
> >>>>>>>> Some notes:
> >>>>>>>> Though there are many examples of multifile upload out there,
> >>>>>>>> our designs aren't so simple because of the current "one file
> >>>>>>>> per flavor" limitation/feature. We considered providing the
> >>>>>>>> ability to upload two audio files (knowing that they *could* be
> >>>>>>>> processed if they were different flavors) but couldn't come up
> >>>>>>>> with a likely scenario where this was necessary, so have kept
> >>>>>>>> the design even simpler by providing the ability to upload only
> >>>>>>>> one audio-only file. Adam's recollection of the default
> >>>>>>>> workflow was that if there was an audio-presenter track, that
> >>>>>>>> it would be the one processed (rather than any audio that that
> >>>>>>>> was muxed with
> >>>>>>>> video-presenter) so text in the UI reflects this; if we are
> >>>>>>>> wrong, please let us know asap. As always, wording to
> >>>>>>>> adequately describe flavors is tricky; happy to hear any better
> suggestions.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I've also put together a very rough sketch (with all the
> >>>>>>>> caveats
> >>>>>>>> above) for a design that's more dynamic, i.e. "slots" for files
> >>>>>>>> to be uploaded are added at the user's request. I like it
> >>>>>>>> because it's a little leaner for 2-file uploads, but requires a
> >>>>>>>> lot more logic to implement.
> >>>>>>>>
> >> <http://opencast.jira.com/wiki/display/MH/Alternative+Multistream+ing
> >> est+for+MH-
> >>>> 2680+March2011>
> >>>>>>>> I know it's not perfect either....maybe there's something
> >>>>>>>> that's yet another variation to consider.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> regards,
> >>>>>>>> Judy
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Judy Stern
> >>>>>>>> Educational Technology Services, UC Berkeley
> >>>>>>>> [email protected]
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> Christopher Brooks, BSc, MSc
> >>>>>>> ARIES Laboratory, University of Saskatchewan
> >>>>>>>
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