Chris, can you elaborate on your proposal? Are you suggesting that we stop
using JPA? Or perhaps, to focus on one DB (MySQL)?
As I won't probably be reading emails until Sunday evening (CET), I'll say
that my vote is -1 for my first guess, and +0 for my second guess (I use
MySQL but I don't want to interfere with those who may want to use other db
system).

+1 on the Greg proposal, btw


El 28 de octubre de 2011 17:45, Rubén Pérez <[email protected]> escribió:

> Chris, can you elaborate on your proposal? Are you suggesting that we stop
> using JPA? Or perhaps, to focus on one DB (MySQL)?
>
> +1 on the Greg proposal, btw
>
>
> 2011/10/27 Nils Birnbaum <[email protected]>
>
>> +1 for both from me. Both will help us to deliver the quality we and the
>> adopters await with our limited ressources.
>>
>> Nils
>>
>> > Hi Greg,
>> >
>> >> I #propose that sometime within the next week I will go through all of
>> >> our entity classes, manually specify the column lengths and fix the
>> >> naming schemes.  The column lengths will be set large enough to
>> >> satisfy 99% of the cases (longtext, bigint) across the board.  This
>> >> will make it much easier to keep the DB schemas, and their expensive
>> >> hand-coded indexes up to date.
>> >
>> > +1, and I'm willing to help review the work if you would like.
>> >
>> > Hank brought up an important issue at our adoption meeting this morning
>> > that I feel strongly about as well.  Having it be "well defined" as to
>> > what we support and what we don't would be good, and minimizing our
>> > surface area would help maintain reliability.  I'm going to skip OS
>> > discussion here and hit the db issue instead: because we use JPA it
>> > shouldn't be hard to change DBs.  But, it is, because JPA sucks and/or
>> > is difficult to do some things in.  So we still need hand coded ddl
>> > scripts.  I would like to #proposal that we switch to a single rdbms.
>> > That we only maintain scripts for one rdbms, and that we encourage
>> > sysadmins to just modify them as they need to for their rdbms.  It
>> > should be straight forward, but it lowers our qa needs.
>> >
>> > Of course, such a db would be MySQL.
>> >
>> > If you're voting -1 on this, we need some fresh ideas on how to
>> > maintain the schemata over time; 1.2 was released with bugs in the ddl
>> > which puts serious egg on our face (and potentially data loss for
>> > people adopting!)
>> >
>> > NOTE: These two proposals are in one thread, so if you're voting make
>> > it clear which you are voting for.
>> >
>> > Chris
>> > --
>> > Christopher Brooks, BSc, MSc
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>> >
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