Jeanette et al, 

I was really interested in the post around the 'Beneath the Metadata'
article. 

I actually think the article has some pretty deep flaws. First of all, it is
not entirely clear why you would apply these philosophical constructs to
Folksonomy in the first place and secondly I don't think it helps to further
the understanding of what Folksonomy and 'traditional' cataloguing are and
how they might work together. 

The article essentially says that classification is about absolutes - this
horse is white, that box is empty - whereas Folksonomy is about subjectivity
and relativism. It goes on to compare classification with propositional
logic and states that Folksonomy by its nature gives rise to logical
contradiction. It strikes me that this misses a significant part of the real
value of the approach. 

In her article, Elaine Peterson says that when we catalogue, we are asking
the question 'What is it?'. I couldn't disagree more. What we are really
asking is 'What are we going to call this thing (and things relevantly
similar to it)?'. In this sense, 'traditional' classification is an act of
collective relativism, and is equally subject to the flaws of subjectivity
as Folksonomy.

I have no doubt that the wave around Folksonomy will eventually pass, and I
very much hope that what will be left is an enriched approach to
professional classification.

There is considerable strength in a hybrid approach which retains the
intellectual rigour of ontological standardisation but which equally
recognises the additional potential value of large-scale subjective
term-attribution. For example, would it not validate our professional
beliefs if the subjective interpretations of tens of thousands of people
translated up into patterns of meaning which confirmed them? And similarly,
if they don't, wouldn't there be considerable value in asking why not? 

Finally, whatever the linguistic consistency or validity of folksonomic
thesauri, we must never underestimate the importance of letting people in.
The act of tagging is only partly to do with classification. It is an
affirmative act which says 'I want to be involved' and for that alone, it is
of tremendous value. 

Nick Poole
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-----Original Message-----
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amalyah keshet
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Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Fwd: folksonomy article

Thanks for forwarding this.  Good article.

Amalyah Keshet


At 20:33 17/11/2006, you wrote:

> >Date:         Fri, 17 Nov 2006 09:41:44 -0800
> >Sender:       Visual Resources Association <VRA-L at LISTSERV.UARK.EDU>
> >From:         Jeanette Mills <jcmills at U.WASHINGTON.EDU>
> >Subject: folksonomy article
> >To:           VRA-L at LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> >Hello everyone -- Considering the recent discussions of folksonomy,
> >I thought this article in the most recent issue of D-Lib might be of
> >interest.  I don't think it's been mentioned yet.
> >
> >Beneath the Metadata: Some Philosophical Problems with Folksonomy
> >Elaine Peterson, Montana State University
> >http://www.dlib.org/dlib/november06/peterson/11peterson.html
> >
> >Jeanette
> >
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